No start p0470
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No start p0470
New to the site and psd's.I have recently purchased a 2006 F250 CC 4x4 6.0.The day I bought it I replaced the icp sensor because the connector on it was broken.I had the oil changed with rotella t6 and installed Ford oil/Fuel filter.The truck was throwing the 2290 code so I replaced the Ipr after pulling it and finding a piece of the cap lodged in the hole.The truck ran great.Got my Scanguage II in and rode fine for a week.Last night I ran by the car wash and sprayed off the truck{not the engine}and drove home.Truck ran great.Got up this morning and no start.Code p0470.It was time for a air filter so I installed a new one.My question is should I change the ebp sensor?Where do i go from here?Also Its about 80 degrees here in Nc so fuel gel isnt an issue.Please HELP!THANKS,JD
Forgot to mention has had egr delete,when I changed ipr I noticed the Ficm was dated 2011.I checked oasis report and only thing showing was stuck egr in 08.Truck has 228k on it now.Stc and dummy plugs are on to do list.Will ebps cause no start?Should I get it reflashed?Can I just pull the computer and take it to ford instead of towing truck in?
Forgot to mention has had egr delete,when I changed ipr I noticed the Ficm was dated 2011.I checked oasis report and only thing showing was stuck egr in 08.Truck has 228k on it now.Stc and dummy plugs are on to do list.Will ebps cause no start?Should I get it reflashed?Can I just pull the computer and take it to ford instead of towing truck in?
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unplug the ebp and see if it starts.
unplug the icp and see if it starts.
check ebpa pid value aginst map and baro should be within .5 psi.
possibel v-ref short causing issues.
also the p2290 even though you fixed it once I would suggest looking at icpv and icp while cranking the engine need 500 psi to start.
unplug the icp and see if it starts.
check ebpa pid value aginst map and baro should be within .5 psi.
possibel v-ref short causing issues.
also the p2290 even though you fixed it once I would suggest looking at icpv and icp while cranking the engine need 500 psi to start.
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key on readings
ICP 0
Ipr 14.4
Fmp 48.5
ebp 14.5
map 14.3
Cranking readings
Icp 0
Ipr 50. then 77.6
map 14.6
ebp 14.5
syc 1
Does the 0 icp mean no power getting there?Bad harness?Thanks in advance for your help.Im in the truck with the pc and scanguage if you need me to checkk something else.Thanks JD
ICP 0
Ipr 14.4
Fmp 48.5
ebp 14.5
map 14.3
Cranking readings
Icp 0
Ipr 50. then 77.6
map 14.6
ebp 14.5
syc 1
Does the 0 icp mean no power getting there?Bad harness?Thanks in advance for your help.Im in the truck with the pc and scanguage if you need me to checkk something else.Thanks JD
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Just held the key for about 30 seconds and the ipc started going up.The truck tried to start and said TBC fault in the cluster.I did it again and when it tried to start I hit the throttle and the truck started.What is TBC fault?What readings should I get while its running?Thanks JD
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Thanks for everyones help so far.Ok so got it going and warmed up,ran a few wot runs.Set the bst on the scanguage.To start with It was very sluggish,after 3 or 4 trips down the road like a maniac it seemed alot better.Boost was maxing out at around 25.What should it be topping out at.Also after the run had 8 dtcs.
P0276
Po470
Po472
P0672
P0676
P0678
P1000
p2285
I cleared them all and will see what happens in the am.Also I checked the cvi and it was @ 5.
Scanguage readings engine running [cold]
ebp 19.3
icp 629
Ipr 21.81
map 14.6
syc 1
flp 12-12.5
fmp 48.5-49
If it was the stc would it still run?
I jiggled the icp wires when I wasnt getting a reading and seemed to have some effect.If the Icp harness is shorting out would it throw these codes?Also is 25psi Boost normal or should I clean the turbo?Thanks,JD
P0276
Po470
Po472
P0672
P0676
P0678
P1000
p2285
I cleared them all and will see what happens in the am.Also I checked the cvi and it was @ 5.
Scanguage readings engine running [cold]
ebp 19.3
icp 629
Ipr 21.81
map 14.6
syc 1
flp 12-12.5
fmp 48.5-49
If it was the stc would it still run?
I jiggled the icp wires when I wasnt getting a reading and seemed to have some effect.If the Icp harness is shorting out would it throw these codes?Also is 25psi Boost normal or should I clean the turbo?Thanks,JD
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Three of the codes are glow plugs but those codes have been there since I bought the truck last month.Never had a problem starting when only those codes were present.Is it possible I just have some wiring issues?Gonna see if the local dealership can reflash pcm tomorrow.
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25 psi Boost is Good range
Now the Biggie what is ICP and IPR% HOT or ECT 190*
I didnt check the codes but thought you might have a contributation DTC
the ICP and IPR numbers look good cold
But you need to take the ICP and IPR readings HOT ECT190*
take them at KOEO and then again Hot in park at Low Idel and then again at High Idel(2500rpm in Park as well) and post the numbers
I am Still betting you have a HPO Leak
Standpipe may not run so maybe its a Standpipe or Dummey Plug issue in the HPO system
Now the Biggie what is ICP and IPR% HOT or ECT 190*
I didnt check the codes but thought you might have a contributation DTC
the ICP and IPR numbers look good cold
But you need to take the ICP and IPR readings HOT ECT190*
take them at KOEO and then again Hot in park at Low Idel and then again at High Idel(2500rpm in Park as well) and post the numbers
I am Still betting you have a HPO Leak
Standpipe may not run so maybe its a Standpipe or Dummey Plug issue in the HPO system
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Im trying to start the truck cold again.Not having much luck.
The difference now is the readings while cranking.Last night it would restart instantly when hot.Hopefully I can get it running and get the hot readings.
Cranking cold
Icp 1447
Ipr 47.9 then drops slowly to 38
The difference now is the readings while cranking.Last night it would restart instantly when hot.Hopefully I can get it running and get the hot readings.
Cranking cold
Icp 1447
Ipr 47.9 then drops slowly to 38
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Im trying to start the truck cold again.Not having much luck.
The difference now is the readings while cranking.Last night it would restart instantly when hot.Hopefully I can get it running and get the hot readings.
Cranking cold
Icp 1447
Ipr 47.9 then drops slowly to 38
The difference now is the readings while cranking.Last night it would restart instantly when hot.Hopefully I can get it running and get the hot readings.
Cranking cold
Icp 1447
Ipr 47.9 then drops slowly to 38
Man with these numbers and a No Staert Im starting to wonder if I am Wrong
With these numbers it should start or will say the HPO is up high enough to start as lomg as ICP not giving a Bad Reading
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alot of these codes were open circut codes
I had the definitions all pulled up and computer droped the page
I just cant see all those things going out at once
I dont have time to pull all codes again but can tonight But start looking for a wire chaff and bad wire Harness majooirity of codes were open circut codes I now beleive something electrical
What has beeen done to the truck recent history
I had the definitions all pulled up and computer droped the page
I just cant see all those things going out at once
I dont have time to pull all codes again but can tonight But start looking for a wire chaff and bad wire Harness majooirity of codes were open circut codes I now beleive something electrical
What has beeen done to the truck recent history
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Wiring issues. Check ALL your connections at the drivers side fender liner and PCM. Almost every code says open/shorted circuit. Possibly Vref issues.
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would you change the stc or just wait for it to break?Trucks at the shop,buddy said he thinks it cam position sensor.Had it towed in,he checked the codes which I cleared last night and got cam position sensor.He cleared them and the truck fired right up.With 228k is it likely the stc has been changed already?Got the hot readings.
Hot idle icp 586
Ipr 21.41
2500 rpm
Icp 1500
Ipr 40.00
He is planning to do cam position sensor and stc tomorrow.What do you think?
Hot idle icp 586
Ipr 21.41
2500 rpm
Icp 1500
Ipr 40.00
He is planning to do cam position sensor and stc tomorrow.What do you think?