EXACTLY. And if there is only 1/4" above the AM/FM buttons, and 1/16" below the white line, I think the 1985-1986 bezel is going to cut across the radio too much. At any rate, I think the metal mounting plate is going to be off if the whole radio opening was moved down.

I went and and checked my radio opening again, and it now appears closer to 2-1/4" tall.

I am going to just have to find an actual radio or find that Mustang backing plate, and try it in my bezel and see what happens...

 

It might be a little deceiving from the pictures. The 85-85 radio opening is raised were the other is flat. So maybe the spacing isn't that much different. But if you need to know for sure let me know. I have both types and would be glad to do some measuring.

 

This **** isn't for any truck.

E43F-18817-AA = Ford part number E3FZ-18817-A .. Radio ****

Applications: 1983 Mercury LN7 / 1983/84 Escort/Lynx.
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The following are:

D7OZ-18817-A .. Outer Radio ****-Chrome Plastic.

D7OZ-18830-A .. Inner Radio ****-Chrome Plastic.

Applications: 1980/84 F100/350 & Bronco / 1977/79 LTD II/Ranchero/Thunderbird/Cougar / 1979 LTD.

Prolly used 1980 and later, but I've misplaced the 1980/89 car microfiche slide that covers groups 16000/19999.

 

For those of you with the chrome radio ***** and tuning disks, is the back of the tuning disk completely flat, or does it have a protruding "tail" where it pushes onto the radio stem?

Can someone post a picture of the back of the tuning disks and radio *****?

 

Is this cover (bezel) from the same radio that has the Escort/Lynx ***** (see post 33)? Or from some other radio?

Your six ID engineering numbers cross reference to the following:

E4ZZ-6104371-A (replaced D9BZ-5404371-A & D8BZ-5404371-A) .. Instrument Panel Radio Opening Cover.

Applications: 1978/83 Fairmont/Zephyr / 1979/84 Mustang/Capri / 1981/82 Granada & Mercury Cougar / 1984/86 LTD/Marquis.

There are NO Ford part numbers marked on parts after 1956, just casting or ID engineering numbers-when applicable!

 

One and the same --

 

The 1980-82/1983-1984 radios are taller than the 1985-1986 variant.

The bezel openings for the 1980-1984 / 1985-1986 are different because of this. The 1985-1986 hole is not as tall.

1980-1984 opening is 2-1/2" tall.

The bottom line is the same, it's the top line that is 1/4" higher 1980-1984.

You can't use a 1985-1986 bezel on a 1980-1984 type radio. It will cut off the top 1/4" of the radio.

 

You are correct on everything you said, 81-F-150-Explorer.

I think maybe I will just keep my 1985 style cassette deck, and see if the older style chrome discs and ***** will work on it.

Reading your earlier post, the only functional difference between my 1985 radio and the older 1980-1984 radios, is the left **** will auto-reverse the tape (the older models would eject the tape out) when you push it. The newer style radio has a separate "EJECT" button for that purpose.

For reference, here is a picture of the 1985 mechanical-style cassette deck:

 

The 1985 and 1986 have Dolby type "B" noise reduction as well. Cancels out tape hiss.

The earlier ones don't have Dolby, or auto reverse. Pretty much the same radio otherwise, minus cosmetics and outward dimensions.


Not sure if the ***** will fit, most likely will not. The chrome ***** have shafts that are about 1/2" long that fit over the radio shaft.

 

LARIAT 85,

Regarding your photo as seen above... is that NOS?

 

I picked up a set of the chrome ***** and discs from the junkyard yesterday. Apparently the 1980-1984 radios have a slightly longer shaft than the 1985-1986 radios, because the discs and ***** will both fit, but not together. When the disc goes on the 1985 radio shaft, it's almost at the end of the shaft, so the ***** do not have enough shaft left to be held in place. I suppose the long stem of the disc could be cut down if I wanted to bad enough. However, the ***** fit fine over the separate 1985's bass/treble dials and the balance dial, and look better than the smaller ***** that came on this radio.

Yes, somebody on Ebay is selling that one for $300.

 

Simply for the sake of adding to the discussion, I pulled out my radio; tag appears to read E4ZF-19?A198-AA.
Second photo: Radio bracket marked E2DF?-18888-AA, that came with that cassette deck. This mounting/grounding bracket would not fit in the dash, so I substituted a metal pipe strap, screwed into the back of the radio and to the grounding point inside the dash frame.
Third photo: Radio bracket marked D9AF-18888-AB, that was attached to the Sanyo deck when I got the truck. Numberdummy, is this a clue as to whether the truck came with a radio? Would this bracket have been inside the dash if no factory radio was installed?
Fourth photo: Chilton p.6-17, where I realized I had no radio mounting plate.
Fifth photo: Just treated the mounting plate with Permatex Rust Treatment.

 

Part number (works for engineering numbers too) explanations: 101.

The part numbers can be decoded and carries a weath of information.

Engineering Number: E4ZF-19A198-AA

E = Decade = 80's
4 = Year of Decade = 1984
Z = Designed for = Mustang
F = Electronics Division

18800-18900 = Radio and Speaker group
19000-19585 = Custom Accessories

AA = design change. A = first design B = Second etc...


E = Decade = 80's
2 = Year of Decade = 1982
D = Designed For = Falcon/Maverick
F = Electronic Division
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18888 = Radio and Speaker group = Parts
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AA - Design Change

So you are not going to see a E4 number on a 1981 from the factory, because it was made and designed in 1984. A 1981 as "factory equipped" will have E1 or older parts on it if they are original. Therefore the E2 and E4 parts do not belong as they were made later than your truck.


D9AF-18888-AB

D = Decade = 70's
9 = Year of Decade = 1979
A = Designed for = Generic Full Size
F = Electronic Division
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18888 = Radio and Speaker = Parts
-
AB = Design Change

This is the only part that can belong to your truck as they were used as a radio bracket for the AM and AM/FM and AM/FM stereo radio.

The radio mount did not come with trucks without a Radio. Neither did the antenna on the outer fender, or any speakers at all, dash or door mount.

More than likely, from the bracket your sanyo radio had attached, it had one of the AM only or AM/FM variants. Check the doors right under the top hinge for rubber conduits where the speaker wires go from the cab to the doors. The factory conduits are large. If it's missing these conduits you can say you had AM or AM/FM mono only. If no factory door speaker conduits, or dash speaker, and the antenna isn't factory, then you can say it didn't come with a radio. It takes some detective work etc...

Only true way to tell what your truck had from the factory is to order a build sheet. Do a search for build sheets for more information.

 

That certainly all ties together nicely, thanks. '84 Mustang radio with bracket, as you had detected earlier, with Escort/Lynx *****. (Also now known as one-of-a-kind hybrid custom cassette deck. ) Original radio bracket held mono radio at some point. I definitely have no door speakers or conduits, so the photos on my thread showing where the dash was pried apart and the speaker frame bent indicate that the PO removed the dash speaker, possibly at the same time the Sanyo unit was stuck in there.

I spent quite a while on the phone with Ford the week I got Festus. They finally determined that a build sheet for him was unavailable. They weren't really able to explain why, blaming it on the computers.

 

Did'ja know that Festus (Ken Curtis) besides acting in Gunsmoke also appeared in many of director John Ford's films? He was married to Ford's daughter Barbara.