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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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valve guides

i pulled my 6.0 out to do some work on it and ive sent the heads out to a machine shop and their saying the valve guides are bad. for some reason they cant find any to replace them with and im having the hardest time finding valve guides. any help?? this is the last thing keeping me from putting my motor back in
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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This is one thing I don't have in my motor parts list. This is the only place I know that might have them: Industrial Diesel Engine Replacement Parts Dealer, Aftermarket Rebuild & Overhaul Kit Systems Supplier
 
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Old Mar 1, 2012 | 08:57 AM
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Can you not get them from the stealership or the international dealer ?
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:09 AM
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Can you not get them from the stealership or the international dealer ?
A Ford dealership won't repair a head on a 6.0. It's a throw away item.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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WOW I didnt know this was an issue

And I have never seen it come up B4 with all the Head repair work that has been posted here.

I thought that when they shave the heads that they would also press NEW valve guilds in

So what your saying is all the folks that got there heads shaved did NOT replace the Valve guilds

Lets say If A guy had some heads that had 250K on them I would think he would want new Valve Guilds pushed in with New Valves and possibly valve springs

IIRC I saw a company once that You would take and drill the valve guild out and then push in there new Liner I think that they gave you a new valve to install with it all I dont know to much about this method I just read about it
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 11:47 AM
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these guys are saying they cant get a hold of any guides, but after talking to them more on the phone they wanted all new valves. i drove up there yesterday to see what was going on and the "experts" were pulling the valves almost all the way out to check to see if the valves wiggled with no tension on the valves i may add. so to be sure i grab one valve that was still hooked up and hey no wiggle no bad valve no bad guide. there just bone heads who are afraid that if something happens to the valves ill sue.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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So what your saying is all the folks that got there heads shaved did NOT replace the Valve guilds

As for this Blade, ive asked the machine shop and they can shave the heads without replacing the valve train they just have to remove it before shaving. im a real pain in the butt when i comes to people doing work on my truck that i for whatever reason cant do. i asked a million questions.
 
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Remember max .004 to .005 on the heads.
 
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
WOW I didnt know this was an issue

And I have never seen it come up B4 with all the Head repair work that has been posted here.

I thought that when they shave the heads that they would also press NEW valve guilds in

So what your saying is all the folks that got there heads shaved did NOT replace the Valve guilds

Lets say If A guy had some heads that had 250K on them I would think he would want new Valve Guilds pushed in with New Valves and possibly valve springs

IIRC I saw a company once that You would take and drill the valve guild out and then push in there new Liner I think that they gave you a new valve to install with it all I dont know to much about this method I just read about it
AFAIK guides have never been an issue. They just cut the heads to get them flat. Some don't even remove the valves to do it.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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have seen a head or to with bad guides not very common.
guides are checked with a ball mic fyi.
 
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Originally Posted by dustinlauricha
these guys are saying they cant get a hold of any guides, but after talking to them more on the phone they wanted all new valves. i drove up there yesterday to see what was going on and the "experts" were pulling the valves almost all the way out to check to see if the valves wiggled with no tension on the valves i may add. so to be sure i grab one valve that was still hooked up and hey no wiggle no bad valve no bad guide. there just bone heads who are afraid that if something happens to the valves ill sue.

I beleive to check the valve/guild you need to take the spring off

Not shure but I think the spring would hold tension on it making it hard to feel any play between the two and should be checked where it rides normaly in the guild

If you pull it most of the way out the valve stem might not be as worn at that location vs where it normaly sits

IDK but theres probably alittle art to checking them right
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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its a big art tring to use a ball mic
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
its a big art tring to use a ball mic


IDK what a Ball Mic even is Cheezit

But when I took my truck in for saftey inspect they used a Mic on the Brakes But that thing was right on the money I had like 1/16th of Brake pad left it Failed. I was glad it failed actully saved the roter

heres what google brought up is this even close Cheezit

 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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SPI Ball Type Small Hole Gages .125-.500 4 Pcs Set | eBay

here ya go this is basicly the same type of set I learned how to do it on.
incert tool expand till drag is felt remove then mic the ball at the widist part.
sounds easy enugh.
there are other ways Im sure but this works.
perhaps someone can find a better link that wont expire.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 09:18 PM
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Ok that looks High Tech thanks for the Pic Cheezit
 
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