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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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429 bell housing?

I have a predicament here. I have a 1966 f100 that originally was a 4 speed manual. Before i purchased the truck the body was transfered to a 1975 4x4 highboy frame which is a c6 automatic with a non factory 429 swap. The clutch pedal is still in the 66 and i want to put a 4 speed back into it (np435). 2 questions i have are how difficult this is gonna be i.e. how much down time do i need to expect if im not using a shop or power tools and is the bell housing on the 429 the same as a 460?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2012 | 10:59 PM
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Yes a 460 bellhousing is the same. So are the 351m/400 bellhousings. 351m/400 BH's are a lot more common than a 460 one.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 17witha664x4
Is the bell housing on the 429 the same as a 460?
No, absolutely not.
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Yes a 460 bellhousing is the same.
FoMoCo did not offer the 460 with a M/T until 1983. All 1968/82 460's came with C6's (including 1968/78 Passenger Cars).

Hydraulic clutch: 1983/97 F250/350 460 / 1984/97 E250/350 460. 1997 was the last year the 460 was available in these vehicles.

460 not available: After 1976 in F100's, after 1979 in F150's, after 1978 in Passenger Cars.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 06:43 AM
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Are the 352 and 429 C6's the same? If so, I'd swap you out everything for the NP435 for the C6 assembly.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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No Passenger Car or F100/350 352 ever came with a C6. MX Cruise-O-Matic only.

The C6 used with FE engines (360/390/410/428): FE engines only.

C6 intro'd 1966 in Passenger Cars, 1968 in F100/350's.

352 cancelled at the end of the 1967 Passenger Car/truck model run.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:13 AM
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What they are trying to say is that the 460 bell housing will bolt on a 429. Same with the 351m/400. Not the same part number, but they work like they are made for the motor.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 1972RedNeck
What they are trying to say is that the 460 bell housing will bolt on a 429.
Yes, I've been aware of this since 1983, but...

All 460's use a hydraulic clutch. So why mess with it, since the 1977/82 351M/400 bell housings (there are two types) can be used instead?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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Yes, I've been aware of this since 1983, but...

All 460's use a hydraulic clutch. So why mess with it, since the 1977/82 351M/400 bell housings (there are two types) can be used instead?
Correct. 400 bell housing are plentiful and cheap around here.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Are the 352 and 429 C6's the same? If so, I'd swap you out everything for the NP435 for the C6 assembly.
Nothing ive found says that they would be any different. My C6 is set up with a slap shifter. I dont have the piece that shows you what gear you are in. The transmission itself is brand new, less than 1000 miles on it.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 17witha664x4
I have a predicament here. I have a 1966 f100 that originally was a 4 speed manual. Before i purchased the truck the body was transfered to a 1975 4x4 highboy frame which is a c6 automatic with a non factory 429 swap. The clutch pedal is still in the 66 and i want to put a 4 speed back into it (np435). 2 questions i have are how difficult this is gonna be i.e. how much down time do i need to expect if im not using a shop or power tools and is the bell housing on the 429 the same as a 460?
If you want to use your stock pedal and most of the linkage just use a 429 Bell housing.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
No Passenger Car or F100/350 352 ever came with a C6. MX Cruise-O-Matic only.

The C6 used with FE engines (360/390/410/428): FE engines only.

C6 intro'd 1966 in Passenger Cars, 1968 in F100/350's.

352 cancelled at the end of the 1967 Passenger Car/truck model run.
Oh for **** sake Bill, 352, 360, 390, no difference. I guess I should have said FE C6 and 429.

So the question is, will an C6 for a 429 bolt to an FE (i.e Ford Edsel) block.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 17witha664x4
Nothing ive found says that they would be any different. My C6 is set up with a slap shifter. I dont have the piece that shows you what gear you are in. The transmission itself is brand new, less than 1000 miles on it.
I have the factory shifter on the column because it is from a '71 F250 with power steering. I saved the collar and the internals to put it back when I do the automatic swap. I have a C6 in my basement that came out of a '67 passenger car with an FE, but it needs rebuilt.

Where are you located? I'm in GA.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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BTW, this is my set up that I just put back in the truck in December.

Clutch has less than 10k miles and it has a brand new Doug Mcleod throw out bearing.

 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BigMikeUGA
I have the factory shifter on the column because it is from a '71 F250 with power steering.

I saved the collar and the internals to put it back when I do the automatic swap.
D5TZ-7228-A (replaced C5TZ-7228-A & C9TZ-7228-A) .. A/T Shift Collar / Available from Ford.

Applications: 1965/77 F100/350 & 1973/77 Bronco.

My point inre to 352: I don't want peeps looking for 1965/67 352 Passenger Cars, 1965/67 352 F100/350's w/a C6, because none came with one.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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Roger that
 
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