4R100 Shift Kit options?
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Mountain Pass
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4R100 Shift Kit options?
PArdon if I dont get this right from the start, but I'm new to the forum....
I have owned mt PSD for about a month now, and have great crisp shifts from 1-2 and 3-4, but 2-3 seems sloppy by comparison. I have been looking at the shift kit mods and wanted to get some feedback from the experts here.
My considerations are the Banks Trans command, which seems to be all electronic control, the TransGo Tugger or the regular TransGo kit which seem to be valvebody upgrade kits. I dont tow very much and mostly just clown around with the truck. Whats the relationship between the electronic vs valve body kits and which is the better way to go?
Thanks IN ADVANCE!
Doug
Not sure if my info posts on its own so :
2001 F350 CC SRW PSD, 4" exhaust w/Banks muffler, Banks 6 Gun tuner, CCV, De-foiled, 4.56 gears(switching to 3.73's), 37" Bfg Mud's.
I have owned mt PSD for about a month now, and have great crisp shifts from 1-2 and 3-4, but 2-3 seems sloppy by comparison. I have been looking at the shift kit mods and wanted to get some feedback from the experts here.
My considerations are the Banks Trans command, which seems to be all electronic control, the TransGo Tugger or the regular TransGo kit which seem to be valvebody upgrade kits. I dont tow very much and mostly just clown around with the truck. Whats the relationship between the electronic vs valve body kits and which is the better way to go?
Thanks IN ADVANCE!
Doug
Not sure if my info posts on its own so :
2001 F350 CC SRW PSD, 4" exhaust w/Banks muffler, Banks 6 Gun tuner, CCV, De-foiled, 4.56 gears(switching to 3.73's), 37" Bfg Mud's.
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I would recommend a John Wood or BTS valve body or a Transgo Kit. Some have gone with the Trans Command only to remove it later.
But it won't be long before someone will post how much they like the Trans Command.
Different strokes for different folks.
If you go into USER CP (there's a button at top left right under the thread title) you can use Edit Signature to enter your truck info and it will be there automatically when you post.
But it won't be long before someone will post how much they like the Trans Command.
Different strokes for different folks.
If you go into USER CP (there's a button at top left right under the thread title) you can use Edit Signature to enter your truck info and it will be there automatically when you post.
Post Fiend
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The tugger comes with more mods than the regular transgo kit. Most of us don't install all of them, but we do use the parts out of the tugger kit for the valve bodies. The soleniod packs on our 4R100 seem to be the type that don't need the modification offered in the tugger kit.
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I have the trans command installed on my truck and I could tell a difference in shifting for the better. I use to tow my 30' TT about 10,500 lbs and its helped, but now I dont tow heavy anymore, maybe 6k at the most. Was it worth it? At the time it was because I bought it before I joined on here to find out what was good. I do plan on removing it and installing it on my X and I will get something else for my truck. The good about it is you dont have to drop the pan. Its like those off the shelf chips/tuners good up to a certain point which I have one of those also but thats getting changed also.
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Mountain Pass
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Dropping the pan isnt much of my concern, I plan to install the Mag Tech pan and want to change the filter out anyway. The TransGo without the tugger mod is seeming to me my favorite so far. I just dont see where I would be needing the 1st gear braking option and like the idea of replaceing the lock-up (snugger) valve.
As i understand it , some of the programmers control the trans too, like the DP 60t & e etc... Would the install of the hard parts effect these tuners if I use one of them in the future?
Thanks!
Doug
As i understand it , some of the programmers control the trans too, like the DP 60t & e etc... Would the install of the hard parts effect these tuners if I use one of them in the future?
Thanks!
Doug
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Mountain Pass
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From: Princeton Minnesota
I would recommend a John Wood or BTS valve body or a Transgo Kit. Some have gone with the Trans Command only to remove it later.
But it won't be long before someone will post how much they like the trans Command.
Different strokes for different folks.
If you go into USER CP (there's a button at top left right under the thread title) you can use Edit Signature to enter your truck info and it will be there automatically when you post.
But it won't be long before someone will post how much they like the trans Command.
Different strokes for different folks.
If you go into USER CP (there's a button at top left right under the thread title) you can use Edit Signature to enter your truck info and it will be there automatically when you post.
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Mountain Pass
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The Mag Tech pan had the largest capacity (+7qt) compared to the others at (+3-4qt). The way I see it, once the tranny is at operating temp thats where you want to keep it. True, keep it cool as in dont fry it, but thats it. I figured the extra capicity = extra insurance.
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I was thinking about the Mag pan as well. I have the rear diff cover and really like it.
Is there something bad about it POP? or is it just a bunch of money for looks and name? That is kinda the vibe I got from one of my trans guys around here.
Is there something bad about it POP? or is it just a bunch of money for looks and name? That is kinda the vibe I got from one of my trans guys around here.
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From: Damon (South East Texas)
I feel that a the money should be better spent on a good external trans oil cooler and internal mods. While the cast pan does add some stiffening to the case, IMHO it's cooling effects are minimal at best for the money. My trans runs so cool, I recently added an external fluid control thermostat to help "warm it up a bit" during the cooler months.
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touche', that does make more sense. I already forgot I was looking for a 6.0 cooler just remembered that dang salvage yard guy never called me back. I think a new one will be best anyway. Someone posted a link for a good price on a new one not long ago. Does anyone know where that was.
thanks
thanks
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Yes, noticeably.
I've been completely happy with it for about six years or so.
I just never mention it because it isn't in style any more, having been supplanted with ready-made variations that require no accumulator disassembly.
Also keep in mind that I don't tow heavy. I believe I have the shifts that Ford SHOULD have had originally for their SuperDuty trucks from the factory.
But that's just me.....
Pop
I've been completely happy with it for about six years or so.
I just never mention it because it isn't in style any more, having been supplanted with ready-made variations that require no accumulator disassembly.
Also keep in mind that I don't tow heavy. I believe I have the shifts that Ford SHOULD have had originally for their SuperDuty trucks from the factory.
But that's just me.....
Pop