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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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Of course I'd really love to continue the off-topic-ness, but that would be disrespectful to the OP and his original thread topic. Would you like me to split this discussion off to it's own thread?

Nah I think we can leave the off topic ness alone and focus on the OP's broken block.

Does the OP have any pics? Maybe a repair can be made yet with posts, bolts, and loctite.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:19 AM
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I disagree nirod does not penetrate like wirefeed does I have welded with both and wirefeed is by far superior and has more strength ans less cracking
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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What kind of nirod do you think I am talking about? I have both for arc and TIG welding, both processes I guaranty I can get more penetration than a wire feed. Plus penetration shouldn't be a huge factor because to do the repair right the break should be V'ed out to get filler in the whole break.

I would mig cast to fill a hole, repair a crack in a mani, and to get a tap out but I wouldn't do it like I said before for anything that gets stressed.

Maybe mig welding cast works fine for you but I wouldn't do it for my customers stuff. I'll stick with what others and I have been doing for the last 100+ years.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowseeker
Nah I think we can leave the off topic ness alone and focus on the OP's broken block.

Does the OP have any pics? Maybe a repair can be made yet with posts, bolts, and loctite.
The OP got a different truck from the dealer for the fix soooo now were all just waiting on pix, At-hem! Or it didnt happen......
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Honestly a repair just ain't worth it IMHO. Lots of ways for a repair to fail in that application, and this is one of those things that's probably just replaced. It's not even an expensive thing relatively speaking, around $1,500 for a junkyard engine.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:34 AM
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Honestly a repair just ain't worth it IMHO. Lots of ways for a repair to fail in that application, and this is one of those things that's probably just replaced. It's not even an expensive thing relatively speaking, around $1,500 for a junkyard engine.

I would agree but have to see the breaks. Sometimes they are very easily fixed and can be just as strong if not stronger than before the fix. Sometimes they are a pain to fix and lots of disassemble is required and not worth the effort.

Most of the motors I see needing repair have tons of cash in just the blocks so it is worth it for the customer to have them fixed. Normally the reason of the breaks are because of the power they put down though so the fix HAS to be better than the stock stuff that didn't hold up. My brother tore half of his bellhousing on his trans apart the first time he launched off the trans brake. Its much stronger now and is holding well after many many many all motor 9 second passes. We'll see how it holds up when the bottle is used.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 08:48 AM
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I can see that you and I disagree on this that's OK I have had several welding instructors do the same until I showed them
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 10:52 AM
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Sorry guys should get pics up today hopefully very busy weekend. Well i least this thread didn't die i see we have a healthy debate going on here. Love the truck so far only issue is a hard shift between 2 and 3 gears which we are working on a fix on another thread. Other than that the truck is in very good condition and runs great. Plus I like the black better than the white.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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No big trucks with all aluminum diesel engines? Well thats because americans are building the big trucks yet, if import companies would start building them I guaranty they would use aluminum motors and then the americans would all of a sudden switch to all aluminum as well. They just need someone else to show them the light. lol
What probably makes the difference is initial cost to start the production.
Both -cast and aluminum get the job done. Aluminum seems to do better job but aluminum being lighter metal doesn't cast under gravity very well.
Meaning you can sand cast iron for very low initial cost, while aluminum require expensive forms for injection. I can only imagine how much such a form for 14 liter engine can cost.
Than technology brings new stuff every day. The pictured 6 liter above has some fancy stuff used. 500 HP from diesel engine weighting 500 lb? I bet lot of owners would like to have those in their Mustangs or Corvettes.
Wouldn't it be fun having a 4 second Corvette making 50 mpg?
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 11:37 AM
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Here is the pics of the broken block: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ith-issue.html
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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Well the used car lot took back the bad truck and paid off the loan and i bought another 99 f250 from them that is a v8 and in much better condition (paid $120 to go through it thoroughly, no issues) with lower miles. They were pretty cool about the whole thing which makes me wonder if they new about the issue the whole time, they said they had now idea about the broken block. Anyway i'm back on the road with a truck that looks like its going last. Thanks for all the info and helpful ideas.
Congrats! Glad your dealer made things right.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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The truck is gone..... but the block was broken on the other side as well but the piece and the bolt was missing from the block so repairing was not really an option i was told which is fine because i did not want a truck that had that kinda stress it takes to break a block.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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So you didn't get this truck with the broken block? Looking at the pics it looks like a repair could be made with the trans off. A patch plate with about 6-8 drilled and tapped holes, 3-4 in the block and 3-4 in the broken piece would probably fix it up just fine for the truck.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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No.... the dealer took the truck back. Also the piece on the other side was missing completely so it could not be patched.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2022 | 01:22 AM
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So you didn't get this truck with the broken block? Looking at the pics it looks like a repair could be made with the trans off. A patch plate with about 6-8 drilled and tapped holes, 3-4 in the block and 3-4 in the broken piece would probably fix it up just fine for the truck.
What is this patch plate your speaking of?
 
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