First DEF fill issues????
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First DEF fill issues????
I posted last night about my first long haul and how great the truck pulled. This AM on my way to work got the DEF 500 miles to empty message. The trip was a bit over 1500miles and truck hasd approx 800 miles on it that 300 miles would have been highway at operating temp the other 500 was putting around town back and forth to work not at operating temp. My first thought was it was not full from original purchase. before trip DEF level in display said ok. Went to local ford dealer bought 2 2.5 gallon jugs and it barely took the first 2.5 gallons. ??????? message still says 490 miles to DEF empty. What am I missing? It is a cab chassis and should be a 6 gallon tank???
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After a refill, give it a few key cycles and see if it doesn't reset. Example: a trip to Wally world, maybe the gun store, church, etc. Also, it doesn't really have a very good level indicator on it. You basically have to almost completely fill it to get it to notice the fluid in the tank. I think there's only like two level sensors in the tank. Mine takes about two-three key cycles before it recognizes the refill. Hope this helps. If not, I would head to the dealer.
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Cycled key on and off 6 times still didn't reset, called dealer and they said drive it...... it took 40 miles and i kept restting it every mile then she majically said DEF level OK...... seems with a 6 gallon tank I got the message awful early and it only took 2.5 gallons. Ford DEF nozzle wouldn't take but a mouthful from the second jug?????Bright side nothing apparantl is wrong and got 5 gallons of def for $40.00 from the dealer with 2 nozzles at no extra charge....small town dealer probably stock before the seperate part # for the nozzle, washed and stored both of them in a zip lock bag for future use ob cheaper DEF
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Cycled key on and off 6 times still didn't reset, called dealer and they said drive it...... it took 40 miles and i kept restting it every mile then she majically said DEF level OK...... seems with a 6 gallon tank I got the message awful early and it only took 2.5 gallons. Ford DEF nozzle wouldn't take but a mouthful from the second jug?????Bright side nothing apparantl is wrong and got 5 gallons of def for $40.00 from the dealer with 2 nozzles at no extra charge....small town dealer probably stock before the seperate part # for the nozzle, washed and stored both of them in a zip lock bag for future use ob cheaper DEF
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FWIW, In the 12 months I have owned my truck, I just add DEF about every 2000 miles, or when I think about it. I have never waited for the 1/2 full message or beyond. Never had problems either. I guess I'm agreeing with everyone that the level indicator may not be up to the task.
To prevent overfilling of the DEF tank when filling with a bottle, Ford
recommends using Motorcraft DEF. Additionally, if the message center
indicates EXHAUST FLUID UNDER 1/2 FULL, you should only add a
MAXIMUM of 2 gallons (6.7L) of DEF to the tank to prevent freeze
damage due to overfilling. If the message center indicates EXHAUST
FLUID LEVEL OK, do not add DEF.
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I received the less than 1/2 full on the information screen yesterday, so I filled the DEF today using the motorcraft 2-1/2 gal jug and the Ford filler. It took 2 gallons and then stopped. I closed everything up and cleaned the filler hose, and placed it in a freezer bag for storage. When I went to drive the truck, the DEF indicated "OK". This is also my first fill but it worked fine.
#12
My 800 mile to empty def light came on about a month ago. I finally got around to going to the Ford dealer and getting a bottle. The 'Truck manager' said that if I didn't fill it all the way up, that the sensor wouldn't reset and the truck would go into 'idle mode' when it went empty. Well, I got one 2.5 gal bottle, put it in, and guess what. The sensor reset and no more 'miles to empty' for def. Think that 'manager' was just trying to sell me more stuff. Oh well.
Ben
Ben
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The manager is partially correct.
The DEF tank has a 1/2 and full level sensor. It is not like a fuel tank where it is variable.
If your DEF tank is nearly empty, it is highly possible that a 2.5 gallon jug wont get it above the 1/2 full mark and trip that sensor.
If that sensor doesnt get tripped, then yes, the truck will go in LIMP mode.
The DEF tank has a 1/2 and full level sensor. It is not like a fuel tank where it is variable.
If your DEF tank is nearly empty, it is highly possible that a 2.5 gallon jug wont get it above the 1/2 full mark and trip that sensor.
If that sensor doesnt get tripped, then yes, the truck will go in LIMP mode.
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So has anyone watched the service techs fill your DEF tank? The one here in Tulsa, OK overfilled it so it leaked out the overflow and spilled DEF fluid all over the exterior paint job. So i pointed out the exterior paint job issue and the overflow issue and they pressure washed the areas. Then they left a big mud print in the floorboard when they moved the truck, (2011 K Ranch DRW). So they offered to detail the floorboards. So i end up with a 3 hour first oil oil change at 5000 miles, WTF??? Do they ever read the instructions for the fluids they handle? Hell they should have washed and detailed the whole FN truck for their complete lack of care.