Notices
Offroad & 4x4
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

torque bar or ladder bars?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 20, 2012 | 04:27 PM
  #1  
booger78's Avatar
booger78
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
torque bar or ladder bars?

My truck wraps up the front half of my springs in certain situations off road.
79 short bed 4x4, 6 inch lift, 9 inch rear.
Is there any advantage to having two ladder bars opposed to one torque bar? Im planning to fasten solid to axle and use a shackle at the point where it connects to the frame either way I go.
What are you guys running? Hows it work?
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2012 | 04:47 PM
  #2  
tjc transport's Avatar
tjc transport
i ain't rite
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 65,507
Likes: 5,563
From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
Club FTE Gold Member
a set of ladder bars will be the easiest way to eliminate the axle wrap
 
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2012 | 07:36 PM
  #3  
hav24wheel's Avatar
hav24wheel
FTE Chapter Leader
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 11,273
Likes: 100
From: North Dakota
Club FTE Silver Member

Single arm with shackle is good n least limiting on articulation.
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:17 AM
  #4  
monsterbaby's Avatar
monsterbaby
Hotshot
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 18,423
Likes: 9
From: iowa
Originally Posted by tjc transport
a set of ladder bars will be the easiest way to eliminate the axle wrap
most ladder bar setups do NOT allow for much articulation though. they are great for straight line, fast track stuff but worthless in most other offroad situations.
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 12:11 PM
  #5  
73 ford guy's Avatar
73 ford guy
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,083
Likes: 4
From: Victoria , BC
Originally Posted by monsterbaby
most ladder bar setups do NOT allow for much articulation though. they are great for straight line, fast track stuff but worthless in most other offroad situations.
BamBar - Ultimate Anti-Wrap Solution - Jeepaholics Anonymous
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 12:14 PM
  #6  
73 ford guy's Avatar
73 ford guy
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,083
Likes: 4
From: Victoria , BC
Or

 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:04 PM
  #7  
hav24wheel's Avatar
hav24wheel
FTE Chapter Leader
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 11,273
Likes: 100
From: North Dakota
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by 73 ford guy
Or

Mine was like that pic, but didn't have the threaded area, and the shackle was reversed. As in the bar on top, crossmember mount on the bottom. That way the bar pulled on the shackle instead of pushed. My shackle consisted of two 3/4 rod ends put together to make a short shackle.
 
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:50 PM
  #8  
tjc transport's Avatar
tjc transport
i ain't rite
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 65,507
Likes: 5,563
From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by monsterbaby
most ladder bar setups do NOT allow for much articulation though. they are great for straight line, fast track stuff but worthless in most other offroad situations.
good to know Rob. i am not a "hard core wheeler"
i do soft sand beach running, and swamp mud/muck for work or hunting.
i don't need massive articulation so ladder bars work fine for me.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-6

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 08:35 PM
  #9  
skunkoffroad's Avatar
skunkoffroad
Tuned
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 265
Likes: 12
Originally Posted by 73 ford guy
Or

+1 put it as close to the middle as possible and a little lower than the driveline so it will protect it from rocks and logs it workes great.
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:44 AM
  #10  
booger78's Avatar
booger78
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Great info guys! Gonna build a single arm with shackle. Hiem joints at the two axle attach points too? I'm thinking that will give me some side to side movement that it might need. Looks like I have room to put the shackle on top of the t-case / trans crossmember right beside the t-case (pass side). Should help lift the front end in mud bogs too?? maybe? Do you think 3/4'' square tube will suffice?
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 11:59 AM
  #11  
73 ford guy's Avatar
73 ford guy
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,083
Likes: 4
From: Victoria , BC
I would use a heavier tube. Square tube I wouldnt really suggest as its more difficult to attach end links and threaded section.
Heres my setup.
Just under 1/4" wall,1 1/2" DOM all homebrew backyard style





Top threaded 1.25" rod bushing. Tube was tapped on a lathe before I put it together



 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 12:09 PM
  #12  
73 ford guy's Avatar
73 ford guy
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,083
Likes: 4
From: Victoria , BC
Bushings are these


Ballistic Poly Bushing 2.63" w/ weldable housing

And 1 of these

Ballistic Forged Poly Bushing 2.63"

All for the biggest 3/4" bolt.

I wouldn't use a weld in tube thread either as I was going that route but realized the top threaded rod was 3/4" vs thenow 1.25" and would of been the weak area.
I guess you could always weld a big 1.25" nut on your DOM or square tube if you choose. Bevel into the nut to get better penetration weld. Not a fan of heims. These work awesome with no sloppy play or noise.
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 12:16 PM
  #13  
73 ford guy's Avatar
73 ford guy
Postmaster
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,083
Likes: 4
From: Victoria , BC
I need to build a ladder bar for my other stock 79 camper special real bad right now! It hops like crazy on wet roads. I'm thinking I will go with a bam bar though because it's stock now but I plan to add like a 6" lift so I can easily modify and lengthen afterward with this route..
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 12:40 PM
  #14  
booger78's Avatar
booger78
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Nice work man. Thanks for posting the pics!
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2012 | 12:51 PM
  #15  
66crawler's Avatar
66crawler
Elder User
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 970
Likes: 0
If your going to do all that fab work why not setup a 4 link?
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
xmontex4
1999 - 2016 Super Duty
31
Oct 25, 2013 04:13 PM
BigBully
Brakes, Steering, Suspension, Tires, & Wheels
8
Feb 17, 2006 11:13 PM
mooktank
Offroad & 4x4
3
May 11, 2004 02:53 PM
RawPower
Offroad & 4x4
24
Feb 2, 2004 02:51 PM
Starratt04
Brakes, Steering, Suspension, Tires, & Wheels
4
Mar 4, 2003 02:05 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:38 AM.

story-0
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-02 21:45:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-5
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE