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Old 11-23-2018, 04:42 PM
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Thanks so much. Mystery solved so far as I am concerned. The engine is definitely Cummins small cam 855 (confirmed by stamped rocker cover number 149786). Exact year is not so clear from passenger side block casting numbers - 21012 with stamped 4 on pad adjacent to casting. Further down the block toward the front is a cast 12 4. And even further down is final casting that looks like plate with screw heads that seems to read 8-5-73 but could also be 8-6 75 (or something else). Here are a couple of images. I am not asking you to research any of that, but thought you might be interested FYI.

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Originally Posted by belikethismike View Post
New to the site, and hoping this pays off !!!

Looking for any quick assistance. I'm trying to decode the VIN for a truck I'm trying to buy in Arizona.

I'm in Pittsburgh so doing as much research as possible before I loose this big fish !!! Time is of the essence obviously.

1974 Ford WT900 / W9000 Cab Over
318 Detroit Diesel 2-Stroke
8V71N with a Roots Type Blower
Eaton Road Ranger 13 speed.

The ad claims the vin is Z9T0VT06124 & trying to find anything out about things pre 1980's Large Car seems to be impossible!
This VIN is a confusing mish-mash, who gave it to you, Mr. Magoo?

The 3rd digit is a number, not a letter. I need to know what the number is, because Z9 by itself decodes to several different series' of trucks.

The 4th digit is the letter O .. not a zero. It decodes (1974/77) to a Cummins model NTC350 6 cylinder 855 cid diesel.

The truck was assembled at the Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant (V) and it's a 1974 (T06124).

The VIN does not contain any TRANS or AXLE info, this info is stamped on the Warranty Plate.

Depending on what series truck this is, it's either riveted to the left door face below the latch or riveted to the inside of the left door.

Time is of the essence? Most people would not want a truck this old, as all the parts are obsolete, will be difficult to find and expensive if you do.

It's also huge, so forget the two car garage or the driveway unless it's as long as Route 66!

Where is Bill Mazeroski and Harvey Haddix when you need them?
 
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Old 11-23-2018, 09:27 PM
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This VIN is a confusing mish-mash, who gave it to you, Mr. Magoo?

The 3rd digit is a number, not a letter. I need to know what the number is, because Z9 by itself decodes to several different series' of trucks.

The 4th digit is the letter O .. not a zero. It decodes (1974/77) to a Cummins model NTC350 6 cylinder 855 cid diesel.

The truck was assembled at the Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant (V) and it's a 1974 (T06124).

The VIN does not contain any TRANS or AXLE info, this info is stamped on the Warranty Plate.

Depending on what series truck this is, it's either riveted to the left door face below the latch or riveted to the inside of the left door.

Time is of the essence? Most people would not want a truck this old, as all the parts are obsolete, will be difficult to find and expensive if you do.

It's also huge, so forget the two car garage or the driveway unless it's as long as Route 66!

Where is Bill Mazeroski when you need him?
I guess Iíll have to wait to have him send me pics. Below is the add with the VIN# which he typed and is obviously problematic.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/c...754515025.html
 
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Detroit 8V71N could be VIN engine code S or T or U. That's a nice looking truck, but IMO it's vastly overpriced.

The demand is small, there's very little interest, because there no collector market to speak of. After all is said and done, this ain't a pickup.

Ask a seller for a pic of the Warranty Plate, it would have been nice if he posted it in the ad originally, and...

Do not believe a single word that private sellers claim, as they lie just like new/used car dealers, lawyers, politicians and TV evangelists.
 
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Detroit 8V71N could be VIN engine code S or T or U. That's a nice looking truck, but IMO it's vastly overpriced.

The demand is small, there's very little interest, because there no collector market to speak of. After all is said and done, this ain't a pickup.

Ask a seller for a pic of the Warranty Plate, it would have been nice if he posted it in the ad originally, and...

Do not believe a single word that private sellers claim, as they lie just like new/used car dealers, lawyers, politicians and TV evangelists.
👍🏻 Absolutely!

Iíve already beat gim up on the price pretty significantly. So thereís that.
I also think itís a W9000 & not a WT9000. The ďTĒ was an indicator of a tandem axle was it not? The W9000 was a single axle.
 
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Old 11-24-2018, 10:09 AM
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Detroit 8V71N could be VIN engine code S or T or U. That's a nice looking truck, but IMO it's vastly overpriced.

The demand is small, there's very little interest, because there no collector market to speak of. After all is said and done, this ain't a pickup.

Ask a seller for a pic of the Warranty Plate, it would have been nice if he posted it in the ad originally, and...

Do not believe a single word that private sellers claim, as they lie just like new/used car dealers, lawyers, politicians and TV evangelists.


Well, I at least got a shot of the title for now ...

 
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Dang! $421 in fees?
 
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Originally Posted by belikethismike View Post
Well, I at least got a shot of the title for now ...

Upper pic: Where is Z9T? No see um.

Lower pic: Letter O engine codes. Where is Detroit 8V71N? No see um.

This CA 'pink' slip was issued May 2018, where was the truck before and who owned it?





 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy View Post
Upper pic: Where is Z9T? No see um.

Lower pic: Letter O engine codes. Where is Detroit 8V71N? No see um.

This CA 'pink' slip was issued May 2018, where was the truck before and who owned it?






I know right !!!

At this point all I know is the current owner is in Arizona & he bought it in California recently.

The wrong motor isn't much of an issue as the regular use for these type of rigs is understandable of rebuilding / replacing.

Obviously someone at some point chucked the 5th wheel and installed the custom bed plate and if I understand correctly and a WT9000 was one which had 2 rear axles ( Tandem ) then they obviously chucked that with the bed transformation as well as the multiple hitch and electric brake set up that's in it now.

He did state the CALIFORNIA owner used it to haul his personal classic and custom cars.
 
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He did state the CALIFORNIA owner used it to haul his personal classic and custom cars.
If this is true, where are the pics? Wouldn't you assume that the new owner would want some?

 
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I pulled up that ad and there's so many things false I wasn't sure where to start.
It is a nice looking truck that someone spent a lot of time and money on.
First thing is the only thing legendary about a 318 Detroit or any 8V71 is how much oil they'll slobber out on the ground.
Miss matched tires and wheels, tall 11R24.5 tubeless fronts and shorter 10.00-20 tube type rears, plan on buying new wheels for the back when it needs tires, very few tire shops around that will mess with those old 20" split rims. Would be better if it had 11R22.5 tires and wheels all the way around.
They where work trucks, button over vinyl was the norm but not on the mattress, house carpeting in the front defiantly isn't original, nor are the aftermarket high back seats with arm rest.
Roof top AC was a add on and the RV style sliding rear window is the first I've seen in any big truck.
Period correct radio in 74 would have a 8 track tape player, mixer/amplifier was a 80's thing along with the cassette player.
As much time as was spent on the truck you think they would have had a couple of lids made for the battery boxes if they couldn't find some originals.
I started my trucking career in cabover trucks, IH, Pete, Freightliner, Ford, one thing they all shared in common was how rough they rode, only exception was the air ride cab Ford CL9000, it rode better than a lot of conventional cab trucks.
 
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I pulled up that ad and there's so many things false I wasn't sure where to start.
It is a nice looking truck that someone spent a lot of time and money on.
First thing is the only thing legendary about a 318 Detroit or any 8V71 is how much oil they'll slobber out on the ground.
Miss matched tires and wheels, tall 11R24.5 tubeless fronts and shorter 10.00-20 tube type rears, plan on buying new wheels for the back when it needs tires, very few tire shops around that will mess with those old 20" split rims. Would be better if it had 11R22.5 tires and wheels all the way around.
They where work trucks, button over vinyl was the norm but not on the mattress, house carpeting in the front defiantly isn't original, nor are the aftermarket high back seats with arm rest.
Roof top AC was a add on and the RV style sliding rear window is the first I've seen in any big truck.
Period correct radio in 74 would have a 8 track tape player, mixer/amplifier was a 80's thing along with the cassette player.
As much time as was spent on the truck you think they would have had a couple of lids made for the battery boxes if they couldn't find some originals.
I started my trucking career in cabover trucks, IH, Pete, Freightliner, Ford, one thing they all shared in common was how rough they rode, only exception was the air ride cab Ford CL9000, it rode better than a lot of conventional cab trucks.

Can you believe that's the same damn house carpet that's in my house currently !!!

Thanks for your input. Actually had a relative whom lives close go check it over. The price has come down significantly due to the items you mentioned. I'm actually surprised he's stone engaged with me & hasn't chosen to go with all his other offers he has !!! LOL

I also know that light tan that the dash interior is painted was for the earlier years. 74 would have been a more tobacco / chocolate ( darker ) color / shade. In the sleeper the rear interior surround panel where the window is, in my dad's had all different cities listed. Don't remember if that was FORD assembly plants or just major US cities but I remember it.

There apparently is a discrepancy with the CA title so the owner is getting it rectified & transferred over to his name & state. I'll hopefully have a better vin to decode then
 
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Finally got a half *** shot of the VIN tag.
 
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Finally got a half *** shot of the VIN tag.
Bill,

So with seeing that now, do I have it right with the following?

Z90TVT06124
Z90 = "73 - 77" W9000 Diesel
T = "73 - 79" 8cyl / 568 CID / Detroit 8V 71N
V = Kentucky Assembly Plant ( Is that Louisville or was there 2 plants in Kentucky? )
T06124 = it's a 1974
 
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Z90TVT06124

Z90 = W900 Diesel.

T = Detroit model 8V-71N 568 cid 8 cylinder diesel.

V = Kentucky Truck Assembly Plant (500 and larger series trucks) // U = Louisville KY Assembly Plant (cars, light trucks).

T06124 = 1974
 

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