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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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ROUGH RUNNING

I have a E-350 with a 460. It runs good until hot ( normal temp.) After that it runs really rough a idle and normal driving. New plugs and wires, EGR is good and carb is good. ANY THOUGHTS ?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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What does the cap and rotor look like? Have you checked for vacuum leaks?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Cap and rotor look good, There doesn't seem to be any vacume leaks. It's really weird, it runs really smooth until it warms up.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 05:05 PM
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How do you know the EGR is good? The EGR is supposed to operate only when the engine is warm and while at cruising RPMs, and one that sticks open will cause a bad idle.

Many of the vacuum-operated controls are dependent on engine temperature and could be causing a vacuum leak when the engine warms up.

The DS2 ignition modules can fail when overheated but those symptoms aren't really dependent on changes in RPM, they're constant.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 05:24 PM
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I took the EGR off to see if there was any carbon stuck in it. It was clean and bench tested OK. I ran it up to temp then plugged the EGR and made no difference. Are you talking about the box on the fender well or the module in the dist. Ihave had the box go bad but at that time it wouldn't run at all.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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The box on the driver's side wheel cover.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 08:41 PM
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Have you applied vacuum to the EGR while the engine is running?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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I have had that problem before on a different vehicle but on that one it didn't run at all. Could that cause the problem I am having? Is there anyway of testing it?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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Hook up a vacuum pump to the EGR and apply enough vacuum to move the plunger/pintle in and out and see if there are any changes. I went through this with my 300 l6.
 
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Also check the vacuum line running to the distributor.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 08:54 PM
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I did that with the EGR on the bench and it tested good. Do you mean to test it when it is on the engine running?
 
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Originally Posted by barefooter
I did that with the EGR on the bench and it tested good. Do you mean to test it when it is on the engine running?
You can do that as a test, too. If everything is good, the engine will stumble and possibly die when vacuum is applied to the EGR valve at idle and will resume when it's released.
 
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Yes, make sure it holds vacuum. If the diagram has a small leak it will still move the pintle but not enough for the advance settings. I think, I'm not an expert.
 
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Thanks, I'll play with it again tomorrow.
 
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