need some help with a towing question
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What would make real difference would be get horses and use them for pulling. There is lot of free grass in this country.
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I am sure the government has some sort of tax for that when used as a fuel. Just like when making your own biofuel was popular, here comes the tax man.
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I think the free horse meals still exist. Growing up in Europe, back in 60's I remember Gypsies traveling in horse wagons.
To my disbelieve I run into one of those about 4 months ago in Oregon. The wagon was parked on the side of the highway, the closest city was like 120 miles away and they had a sign "visitors welcome"
To my disbelieve I run into one of those about 4 months ago in Oregon. The wagon was parked on the side of the highway, the closest city was like 120 miles away and they had a sign "visitors welcome"
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It all depends how much you use it. Last week my truck burned about $1500 worth of diesel. Would I have V10, that would add probably $500. Multiply that $500 by number of the weeks in the year than the number of years you will use the truck and the $6000 diesel option looks like small change.
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Kajtek1 do you mind me asking you what you get for miles per gallon, say city and highway. I want to see what the diffrences are between a 7.3L vs my V10. Or if someone who has a 2001 extended cab, short bed diesel would chime in? I want to figure the cost of a trip between the two for mileage. I usually average 10.5 city and 14.5 highway. Im not trying to start a flame war on diesel vs. gas, I am just wondering.
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Last edited by IslandBlueV10; Jan 27, 2012 at 12:14 AM. Reason: Added some info.
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On diesel from Idaho my "shoebox" 10,000lb flatbed gets about 13 mpg. Much less on the stuff they sell as diesel on West Coast. I just bought extended cab F250 flatbed with 7.3l so am waiting for good mpg readings myself. This one should get over 20 mpg I hope
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Man, the only way I have ever hit 20 mpg has been on flat interstate and I am about the easiest driver I know in terms of keeping a light foot on the fuel pedal. Normal mixed driving much less. Since my trucks both have to work and fuel costs are a major consideration, I try to stay aware of my driving style.
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Thanks everybody. I used a trip calculator for this which uses current fuel prices for the area's of travel. I chose a route that I make yearly. From Pocatello, Id. to Joplin, Mo. total trip 1291.7 miles. This trip starts out with both trucks with full tanks.
My truck with the V10:
Gas used 86.03 gallons at a total cost of $256.93. With gas prices between $2.79-$3.09 per gallon.
Then I used SlowGTA's info for his truck, with the 7.3L diesel.
Diesel used 58.64 gallons at a total cost of $213.05. With diesel prices between $3.56-$3.72 per gallon.
I know there is other variables to add but it gives a comparision. If both trucks went together and drove the same it is not to far apart. The numbers are not far enough apart that I would trade my truck off for a diesel. I think where the numbers would really change is the towing mpg. Then the gap would widen.
Again Thanks everybody.
My truck with the V10:
Gas used 86.03 gallons at a total cost of $256.93. With gas prices between $2.79-$3.09 per gallon.
Then I used SlowGTA's info for his truck, with the 7.3L diesel.
Diesel used 58.64 gallons at a total cost of $213.05. With diesel prices between $3.56-$3.72 per gallon.
I know there is other variables to add but it gives a comparision. If both trucks went together and drove the same it is not to far apart. The numbers are not far enough apart that I would trade my truck off for a diesel. I think where the numbers would really change is the towing mpg. Then the gap would widen.
Again Thanks everybody.
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My truck with the V10:
Gas used 86.03 gallons at a total cost of $256.93. With gas prices between $2.79-$3.09 per gallon.
Then I used SlowGTA's info for his truck, with the 7.3L diesel.
Diesel used 58.64 gallons at a total cost of $213.05. With diesel prices between $3.56-$3.72 per gallon.
Gas used 86.03 gallons at a total cost of $256.93. With gas prices between $2.79-$3.09 per gallon.
Then I used SlowGTA's info for his truck, with the 7.3L diesel.
Diesel used 58.64 gallons at a total cost of $213.05. With diesel prices between $3.56-$3.72 per gallon.
Assume you drive 16k a year, the difference is $800.
There is more to it. Diesel is having very widely spread prices. I always use GasBuddy to find the station that sells diesel 20 cents cheaper than the others. Since diesel doesn't require refueling so often and I like to carry extra can, I save much more than the initial calculation. Add that driving long hauls, I have the option to avoid the stations on desert that sell fuel for $5 and go to the city 100 miles away and buy it for $3.50 TRY THAT WITH V10
Than in CA gas engines have smog checks, while my diesel is exempt.
