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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:19 PM
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Looks like a long block thats compleatly gone thru for 7K
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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Exactly and even not having a core to return would be cheaper.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
18k is the highest I EVER heard for a motor install. .

Me Too thats crazy

Odds are if the GP was bent the head & Piston is toast at a Minimum
seems like the Block is usually OK maybe a Hone Job you will find out soon enough

Probably be best to pull this moter since the piston probably going to be shot
If it was just a HG or something that can be done in the truck

But You can just about call this moter an Interferance moter that piston just about touches the Head at TDC
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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ok so far Im lookin at:

1. heads and vavles=2k
2. EGR delete, oil cooler delete and arp studs=1300(sinster ofc!)
3. heads/upper gasket set= 500

any good pistons for decent price around? might as well do them all lol
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:39 PM
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If you can try and get all the OEM parts from www.partsguyed.com or Tousley Ford
They seem pretty cheap

Are you deleating your Oil Cooler???? with the BPD setup???????

215.00 for an OEM oil cooler from Eds
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:41 PM
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Are you deleating your Oil Cooler???? with the BPD setup???????
thats the plan do it all while I have it pulled out. give me pros and cons, you guys are the pros im just wanting todo it once and not worry about it for a LONG time to come. just to play afterwards! lol

and yes all my parts will come from ed except the delete. prolly thats where im pricing everything.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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I think the BPD setup is great never worrey about cross contamination of coolant and oil again

I changed my oil cooler awhile back but only had the money for OEM

I figure I can change that oil cooler quite afew time for the cost of that BPD setup

My Labor is FREE with all the Help here on FTE the Little tips and tricks are Priceless

But that BPD setup shure would be Nice to not worrey about it anymore I figure an Oil cooler can rupture Regaurdless if kept in spec or Not
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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yea i agree, if it was still running and i didnt have to pull the motor thats prolly what i would have done. BUT since im pulling the motor might as well solve it b4 it goes next

so anything else I should do? heres my list:
Heads and vavles, egr,cooler delete, arp studs, upper gasket set, pistons and rings.

Anyone think of anything else I should think about. Money isnt the problem really not if its going to save me in the long run.. plan on keeping this truck til its dust. or atleast til I lite the fuse LOL
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:17 PM
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How many miles on it???
one thing to keep in mind these 6.0 Bottom ends are solid I beleive theres a few folks now that are at 300k-400k on original Pistons/rings still going

If it were me Id wait to order parts till the Heads come off and could see the Carnage
or I guess if the block got scared good you could punch it out to oversize pistons but who knows

Usually if its a big enough POS in there it wont scare the cylinder walls

you will also need a Lower gasket set bed plate,rear main,Front main ect... maybe all thats in your gasket kit.
IDK if they sell a compleate gasket set or not I havent went that far in a 6.0 Yet. But the other rides Iv gone that far in had to get an Upper gasket set and a lower gasket set both separate.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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It has 160k on it. ok ill check into the other gasket set just to cover the bases. and yes im not ordering parts til i break it open and see. just getting myself prepaired. ive had it for the last 40k miles. and nothing done to it at all til the last 2 months. so not to bad. IMO ive had worse. lol and the lower set is only $80 so might as well have it around. think imma keep the internals all stock tho and just get rid of the B/s that hurts it. figure that way it will be stronger and IMO stock runs better. it was ment to be that cong so might as well keep it that way, just make the "bolt ons" the best they can be!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 08:03 PM
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IMHO on a stock 6.0 UNLESS it was using oil or had blowby 160K is nothing on a set of diesel pistons and UNLESS it has cylinder wall damage and requires boring I'd but a new piston back in one hole and let it bump. I'll bet the machining cross hatches are still in the cylinders from original machining.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 09:45 PM
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Size, sorry about the bad luck. I to recently went through the same thing. my problem started with a die/no start. I chased that to the IPR valve, replaced that and everything was great for 10 days. Died again no start another IPR ($300.00) kept my eye on the IPR screen, it was getting clogged with metal, I found a cadaver motor for $700.00 and figured I would use the two to make one good motor. When I took the two motors down I found that my motor dropped a ring and ate the cylinder wall. The $700.00 motor was hydrolocked so the pistions, connecting arms were shot. So I used the block, crank, cam, and heads from the junk yard motor with my (202000 mile) pistions, connecting arms. With a complete gasket set, block cleaning, heads worked, stock head bolts. I think I have about $4000.00 total in the rebuild, and I have a lot of parts to use if I need to later. Also sold the injectors for $700.00 so actually $3300.00

The only advise I can give is if you are like me and can't afford to pay someone to pull and install your engine, take your time read alot, and make damn sure you have the timing marks lined up. If you are not 110% sure of the timing marks ask. I put mine together using the Haynes manual. All they had for timing marks was a hand drawn picture, so I was off about 30 deg. that cost new head bolts, head gaskets, push rods, and rocker assemblies. Oh yea another couple of weeks taking down, rebuilding and reinstalling.

I hope you have better luck than I did, I will try to post some pics of my "do nots" so maybe others can avoid them.
PS don't worry about this being a diesel, until this breakdown all I ever did was the small stuff, but with the info on this site and my local Ford mechanic all is well. Good Luck and keep us posted about your progress.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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Ok, got it back from the steelership today. They replaced the "bent" glow plug. and thats about it. they tried to tell me that it was a valve... BUT it doesnt over boost now. no more 132b code. now all i have is the P0281 which is a #7 fail. but it runs smoother now then it did before. still have the "white/blue" smoke at idle. but other than that IDK! My question is can a glow plug cause that much problem? can a glow plug cause overboosting? should I try to change the others and see what happens? Would hate to pull the head off for nothing. Should I do injectors? IDK looking for someone in Indiana that has a AE til I can get one. (savin my pennies til i figure this out)
 
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 06:57 PM
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A GP will not Cause turbo overboost
I wouldnt replace all the GPs at this point either

IDK but something had to be in there to Bend that GP

If you want to check it out you can pull that #7 GP and do a Compression test

This 6.0 I would call an Interferiance engine that piston just about Kisses that Head at TDC. Although in therory the piston and valves would never Kiss. Its all gear driven I beleive so no Timming chain or belt to break and let the Piston Kiss that valve so Something had to get in there or Really I think a chunk of Valve broke off and raised Hell.

Im not shure what size is for the compression tester same as the GP thread though
 
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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Is there much blowby? I think you lost a ring or had a stuck open injector and blew a hole in a piston. I hope for your sake it's neither and just something minor.
 
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