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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 12:45 PM
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Received this today. Still pricey in my book. And no injectors

 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 12:55 PM
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Pro Charger kit on the 6.2L Raptor has been awful , i have talked to many , many with issues. From blown motors to poor drive ability. Oh we had nothing to do with tuning any of them either..
 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:41 PM
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I see it comes without a tune which means you would need a custom tune to use it.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:13 PM
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Calibration, OK, but no injectors or even spark plugs for $6200. Whoa.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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Well, most folks are throwing down $45-55K+ to get into a 6.2 truck. They figure that if we can afford that then we can afford $6K for their SC. Hell, that's "only" a little over 10% of the price of a new fully loaded pickup these days.

Speed cost money. How fast do you want to go?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:28 AM
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How fast do you want to go?
I wanna go fast! With no injectors nor tune, that's gonna cost even more, plus labor, etc.. This isn't looking as appealing, but I admit, I'm still interested...

 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:30 AM
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It would be nicer if it was a turn key bolt on package like you can buy for a Mustang. Just bolt it on and send in your trucks computer while you are doing the install via overnight UPS or something. They flash it and send it back and you are only down for two or three days. We could be dealing with something we are not aware of though. Maybe the new trucks have the computer in a very bad spot to remove or maybe it has more than one module to program.
Now a days I don't see a need for removing the computor and sending it in like we had to in the past. (I haven't installed a SC system in about 8 years) I think it could be done by including an aftermarket programmer with the tune for your vehicle preloaded on it. If it has something to do with variables between vehicles they could still include a programmer. You could then send them your vehicles details and then download the tune and install it.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:29 AM
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Now a days I don't see a need for removing the computor and sending it in like we had to in the past. (I haven't installed a SC system in about 8 years) I think it could be done by including an aftermarket programmer with the tune for your vehicle preloaded on it. If it has something to do with variables between vehicles they could still include a programmer. You could then send them your vehicles details and then download the tune and install it.
I believe that Roush is using this method to create the "appearance" that the proper ECM specifications are used in the install of the supercharger to maintain the factory warranty. If they sent you a tuner, then who is to say that the installer didn't modify the ECM specifications, which may cause damage to the engine.

My issue here is that if you change anything like the headers, injectors, pulley, etc, then the stock Roush tune is no longer optimal. It is up to you to find a tuner like Mike to make the needed changes to the ECM specifications.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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A supercharged 6.2 would be a towing beast. I would buy one in a heartbeat.

And, you would not have to add fertilizer to your truck, like the diesel boys to now, then face a $10k cost because your wife put it in the wrong filler hole.

Man, I'm not touching that one.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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OMG LMAO!!!!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 03:25 PM
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I've been thinking about this topic and the Squires Rear Turbo system came to mind. I believe they just finished a bolt-on kit for the 6.2L Raptor so they could probably produce a kit for our trucks with little effort. So what would be the advantage of this Roush S/C over this turbo...other than a little turbo lag and power available at lower RPMs.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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So what would be the advantage of this Roush S/C over this turbo...other than a little turbo lag and power available at lower RPMs.
With a 3-ton Raptor trying to fly over every hill it comes across or a 4.5 ton F350 designed to pull over 15K lbs and haul up to 7000 lbs I think instant power in the lower RPMs would be the main advantage. Who wants to wait for a turbo to spool up?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerforever
With a 3-ton Raptor trying to fly over every hill it comes across or a 4.5 ton F350 designed to pull over 15K lbs and haul up to 7000 lbs I think instant power in the lower RPMs would be the main advantage. Who wants to wait for a turbo to spool up?
While I do agree with you on instant power, the diesel owners don't seem to complain too much
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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While I do agree with you on instant power, the diesel owners don't seem to complain too much
The 6.7L diesel engine has 800 lb-ft of torque at 1,600 rpm's... how long does it take the turbo to get to 1,600 rpm's? Not very long...

The 6.2L gas engine has 411 of torque at 5,500 rpm's... even with a supercharger, there is a significant lag time to reach peak power so any delay would be unacceptable.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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While I do agree with you on instant power, the diesel owners don't seem to complain too much

I'll complain about it. We have had several oil burners (7.3, 6.0, 6.4, 6.7 and a couple of Dodges and Chevies) in our fleet at work over the years and I hate driving them. I can't tell you how many times I've been in traffic in town, stomped the go petal and was almost in an accident because it took so long for the turbo to spool and the truck to move. Yeah, given a few seconds they'll take off like a rocket or tip into the throttle on, say, a heavy pull up a long grade and the turbo will roll on the power. But I like my truck to go and go when I tell it too. I’ll never own a diesel or a turboed truck as my personal vehicle.
 
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