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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 06:31 PM
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Watched a surveillance video today of a thug stealing a 2007 F250 PSD. Took him about 10 seconds with a screw driver to pop the lock, defeat the ignition and drive away. However the idiot stopped to refuel and put gas in it,,,the truck was recovered and the theives were id'd......however not too sure about the engine after he tried to drive with gas rather than diesel...........
Hope the 2011's and later are a little tougher to steal,,,but most likely just as easy
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 07:59 PM
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After 08 the SD's have chipped/immobilizer keys which presumably make it more difficult to steal the truck itself.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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I know for a fact the immobilizer works. Had just a regular key made so i could unlock the tailgate and the under seat storage with the engine running. I tried unlocking the door with it, and it started the 5 second countdown before it sounded alarm. Then i later tried to start the motor and it gave me immobilizer fault or some other message and would not turn over the motor. Again this was with a key, so there may be a way to bypass that with a wiring. But as far as a screwdriver, don't see it working
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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That's good to know. Guess I will start taking the key out of my truck! Darn keypad is so handy I usually just leave the key in there.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 08:27 PM
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The alarm will go off even with the immobilizer key, if you just use it to manually unlock the door unless you put the key in and start the truck.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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The alarm will go off even with the immobilizer key, if you just use it to manually unlock the door unless you put the key in and start the truck.
You're right, there is no transponder in the door lock cylinder. I had a loner two weeks ago that didn't have the key fob. Was annoying as heck having to start the car IMMEDIATELY after unlocking to avoid everyone thinking that I was stealing a Focus!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 04:30 AM
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The alarm will go off even with the immobilizer key, if you just use it to manually unlock the door unless you put the key in and start the truck.
I have a 2011 SD. I open my door almost daily at work with no key. At 6 am I dont need sunglasses. Come 8 am when I'm hitting the road I always stop by my truck to get them out. Just keypad to unlock and keypad to relock. Have not had an issue yet....? Maybe because it's just a quick in and out?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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I have a 2011 SD. I open my door almost daily at work with no key. At 6 am I dont need sunglasses. Come 8 am when I'm hitting the road I always stop by my truck to get them out. Just keypad to unlock and keypad to relock. Have not had an issue yet....? Maybe because it's just a quick in and out?
Nope, it's not activated by the keypad. Knowing the combo means you're likely the owner of the truck. Cycling the lock cylinder and opening the door without unlocking with the keypad or key fob means that you could have picked the lock or punched it out.

Try it with the key sometime. You'll get a message immediately asking you to start the engine in X seconds to prevent the alarm from going off.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by p12483
I know for a fact the immobilizer works. Had just a regular key made so i could unlock the tailgate and the under seat storage with the engine running. I tried unlocking the door with it, and it started the 5 second countdown before it sounded alarm. Then i later tried to start the motor and it gave me immobilizer fault or some other message and would not turn over the motor. Again this was with a key, so there may be a way to bypass that with a wiring. But as far as a screwdriver, don't see it working

can you start the truck with the plain key and have the transponder key in your pocket ?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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No, the transponder in the key is a passive device and needs to be within inches of the ignition. It is not like the "Smart Key" type transponder which is an active transmitter.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2012 | 11:09 PM
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I have to say, be carefule using the keypad. I can say from experience that thieves (thugs) look for opportunities. The guy or gal that gets out of the truck and used the keypad to lock the doors is the one that just left the keys in the truck. I've seen it 3-4 times on surveillance video when I worked retail. Less than 15 seconds and they are driving off with the truck. Lock the door from inside when getting out is better if you insist on leaving the keys in there.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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I have to say, be carefule using the keypad. I can say from experience that thieves (thugs) look for opportunities. The guy or gal that gets out of the truck and used the keypad to lock the doors is the one that just left the keys in the truck. I've seen it 3-4 times on surveillance video when I worked retail. Less than 15 seconds and they are driving off with the truck. Lock the door from inside when getting out is better if you insist on leaving the keys in there.
You don't need to use the "code" to lock the doors from outside. After you close the door, you just press the 7/8, and 9/0 buttons simultaneously and it will lock all the doors. Even my wife's '04 f150 FX4 does that...
 
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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You don't need to use the "code" to lock the doors from outside. After you close the door, you just press the 7/8, and 9/0 buttons simultaneously and it will lock all the doors. Even my wife's '04 f150 FX4 does that...
Right, but if I were to see you close the door and lock them using the keypad on the outside, I'm going to assume you left your keys in the truck. I point it out to my wife frequently so she understands when she drives my truck what to be careful of.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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Personally, I'd never lock the truck leaving the key in the truck, especially not in the ignition. There are too many thieves who walk around looking for vehicles with the keys left in and a locked door won't slow them down much. One solid tap and the door window disappears in fragments, hop right in and drive away.
It's hard enough trying to keep your truck yours without leaving the keys in it. In some jurisdictions, it's illegal. In these litigious times, it may even leave exposure as an attractive nuisanse. Little Jose takes your truck and gets jacked up in a crash and Mom hits the jackpot.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Glockin' Bob
Personally, I'd never lock the truck leaving the key in the truck, especially not in the ignition. There are too many thieves who walk around looking for vehicles with the keys left in and a locked door won't slow them down much. One solid tap and the door window disappears in fragments, hop right in and drive away.
It's hard enough trying to keep your truck yours without leaving the keys in it. In some jurisdictions, it's illegal. In these litigious times, it may even leave exposure as an attractive nuisanse. Little Jose takes your truck and gets jacked up in a crash and Mom hits the jackpot.
Very well said Bob! These trucks are like a hot blonde in jeans to a teenager.........

Plus, not sure how the insurance company would feel about leaving the keys in there, hate to give them any reason not to honor a claim
 
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