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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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What happened?

What ever happened to buying an American made car/truck? Are the car makers really that (insert word here), that they have to outsource all car making to other countries? Do other car makers do the same thing?
 
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 11:00 PM
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To be honest with you, I only buy FORD. My wife on the other hand is a Nissan fan (yuck). Since most vehicels sold in america are made in america, I guess you can't call the asian vehicles RICEBURNERS anymore.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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Nissans are fugly.

I love my Fords.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 12:43 AM
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Nissans are fugly as hail. I used to drive one, so I can say it. They could not possibly have made that car look gayer without painting rainbows on it. Amazingly good car on all counts though, and Tennessee-made. I would not feel bad about buying another.

But I do require a blue oval on the grille of any trucks I will buy. Nothing takes a beating like a Detroit-designed machine.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 06:19 AM
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A blue oval on the grill does not necessarily mean it's American made. A foreign label on a car does not mean it's built overseas.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 07:42 PM
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Interesting topic.........
 
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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
A blue oval on the grill does not necessarily mean it's American made. A foreign label on a car does not mean it's built overseas.
No, it doesn't. All I said was "designed" in Detoit.

The new SD trucks, from what I've seen, have at least half the little parts made in China. What BS.

And as I mentioned, my Nissan was more Tennessee-made more than my Ford is Norfolk-made. But it would seem that American designers are uniquely able to understand the demands placed on vehicles in the US, which are vastly different than elsewhere.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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Many "American" designs now come from Europe (all three) or South Korea (GM) or Australia (GM). Hyundai/KIA design some models in Irvine California, Toyota and Lexus in Torrance California. So, who knows?

Where was the not-for-sale-here new Ford Ranger designed? It would be ironic if the answer was Michigan.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 10:45 PM
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A foreign label on a car does not mean it's built overseas.[/QUOTE]

But is still built by a foreign owned company. The profits go back overseas. It is not an easy task to buy American anymore.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
Many "American" designs now come from Europe (all three) or South Korea (GM) or Australia (GM).
I believe this is why FoMoCo bought the Rover Group and GM bought S.A.A.B., not for the profits (I would hope not, but wouldn't put it past GM). I believe the GM Trailblazer, sold under 6 marques (GMC, Chev, Buick, Olds, Isuzu, S.A.A.B) was originally a Swedish design. Supposedly a lot of GM mechanical technology came from that acquisition.

I'm glad Ford didn't take too many ideas from Rover. Those trucks are not a shining example of good engineering.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 732t37
I believe this is why FoMoCo bought the Rover Group and GM bought S.A.A.B., not for the profits (I would hope not, but wouldn't put it past GM). I believe the GM Trailblazer, sold under 6 marques (GMC, Chev, Buick, Olds, Isuzu, S.A.A.B) was originally a Swedish design. Supposedly a lot of GM mechanical technology came from that acquisition.
GM abandoned Saab in 2009. Some of the later Saab models that were coming out at that time were being designed by Cadillac...

GM to shut down Saab, talks with Spyker fail | Reuters
 
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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Furyus1
GM abandoned Saab in 2009. Some of the later Saab models that were coming out at that time were being designed by Cadillac...
I stand corrected.

As I see it, there are really only around 2 or 3 independent car companies in the world, there never seems to be more than two breaks in the chain of alliances between automakers. You know, Ford with Nissan, Nissan with Renault, Renault with Benz, and on and on in what one eventually realizes is just a big ring.

HELP, THE ILLUMINATI ARE AFTER ME!
 
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Originally Posted by 732t37
I believe the GM Trailblazer, sold under 6 marques (GMC, Chev, Buick, Olds, Isuzu, S.A.A.B) was originally a Swedish design.
It's a rebadged Isuzu....
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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A fellow I worked with at Newport News Shipbuilding used to own a 1985 Nissan pickup. His "Japanese" truck was built in Tennessee and my "American" 1986 F350 was built in Ontario. His was a domestic truck and mine was an import. The first character of the VIN identifies origin, 1 for US, 2 for Canada, 3 for Mexico, J for Japan, D for Germany, G for Great Britain. I don't know the designators for France, Korea, Italy and wherever else we are getting vehicles from.
 
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