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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 10:45 PM
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Forget the triton v-10 It will not pull it either. Forget about changeing rearends and all that stuff, Just get a deisel power stroke. If you can find and older one with the 7.3 so much the better as long as it is in good shape. Most of these trucks will pull up to 16,000 to 16,500 with no problem, be sure to get a long bed tho.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 11:04 PM
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Oh PS, forgot to mention when they talk of fully loaded on your rv they are talking about, if all of your holding tanks are full, fresh water, grey water and bkack water. Most travel trailers have all 3 at forty gallons each. Figure that at 8.64 pounds per gallon and take it off your total gvcw.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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If they are empty..
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by sam50
Forget the triton v-10 It will not pull it either. Forget about changeing rearends and all that stuff, Just get a deisel power stroke. If you can find and older one with the 7.3 so much the better as long as it is in good shape. Most of these trucks will pull up to 16,000 to 16,500 with no problem, be sure to get a long bed tho.
Complete BS.

We're talking about a medium sized fifth wheel, not some huge toy hauler. With the right gearing, a V-10 would have no problem and a 5.4 will get it done, although it would be working a bit. Plenty of people here pull trailers of this size and even larger with their gassers and have no problems what so ever.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sam50
Forget the triton v-10 It will not pull it either. Forget about changeing rearends and all that stuff, Just get a deisel power stroke. If you can find and older one with the 7.3 so much the better as long as it is in good shape. Most of these trucks will pull up to 16,000 to 16,500 with no problem, be sure to get a long bed tho.
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Oh PS, forgot to mention when they talk of fully loaded on your rv they are talking about, if all of your holding tanks are full, fresh water, grey water and bkack water. Most travel trailers have all 3 at forty gallons each. Figure that at 8.64 pounds per gallon and take it off your total gvcw.
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If they are empty..
not sure where you are getting this "info"...but dress it how you want, but it's still crap.

5.4 2v has more power and a better power band than a 460, the V-10 is leaps and bounds above that. To say neither can do the job and only a PSD is capable is pure drivel
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 08:28 AM
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Had the same package for 10 years. Got an 08 V-10. Yes, it pulls it just fine but I now get 8 to 9 MPG the 5.4 got closer to 10. Your 08 has even more HP. I would load up and not look back. But the V-10 is so much fun I tend to run a little harder.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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When I got my V10 (new) it was achoice between the extra $6K for the diesel or the gas vs all the expenses that got with tuning up the diesel so I got the V10. I do camping in the Sierra and the 4.30 gears haul up the grades just fine and can maintain 60 mph going over Donner summit. The 5.4 will do fine with new gears. I never understood why Ford would use the 3.73 in gas trucks, the diesel I can see that because they like low rpms and the V10 likes the rpms high.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 09:22 PM
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I'm not talking about a toy hauler either, I'm talking about something empty weight around 10k. And ya know I is not full of BS either. I've been into pulling RV'S for 25 years. As to the ford 460 it's the worst ford engine ever.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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Wait until it blows a main bearing.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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To sam50 I don't know what you've been pulling with for the past 25 years but u can only assume its been an older worn out 460 by your blanket statement that nothing but a diesel will do. I had a 1995 supercab 7.3 and went to a 2004 crew cab v10 and there is a night and day difference. Unless this guy is full timing, for occasionally pulling a camper over relatively flat terrain I get so sick of you die hard diesel guys thinking everyone needs to go out and buy a new $10k-$15k truck to pull 10k lbs occasionally. There is absolutely no logic in getting a truck you have no idea of of the history for a marginal amount of extra low end torque that you use a few times a month. My camper weighs in at just under 12k fully loaded and I pull it with my 5.4 when its just me and my boy and with the cc v10 when its the whole family. I may not pass a corvette on a decent grade with either truck but when I've got that much weight and my family on board I don't go over 65 and I'm in no hurry. Getting to our destination safely is priority #1 and either truck is fully capable. You do realize the only difference in all of the newer f250 and f350 lineup is the size of the motor and tranny combinations and has nothing to do with safely moving the weight. So I definitely call bs man sorry. To the op, you've already got the truck. Spend a few weekends with your current setup and see how you like it before you make any decisions. There is no reason to spend $1500 on regearing or god forbid $15k on a new truck just because some jack wads on the internet made you feel your truck was inferior. If you pull with it and aren't happy then come back and let these guys know and they can steer you in the right direction. I would suggest a tune from mike at 5 star tuning as the shift patterns alone will make you smile. Ps I don't spend as much time on here as I used to because j get so sick of guys (who prob have never owned a 5.4 or 6.8 and likely haven't owned a diesel but just repeat crap theyve read/heard) continually bash the gasser guys. Also, diesel around here is over 30% more than gas, and you realistically won't see over a 30% increase in mileage to offset any cost with ANY diesel pulling except maybe an old 12v cummins no matter what these guys who have never actually owned a diesel tell you. And empty you'll see even less mph difference if its your daily driver. Cheers!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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I had a triton v-10 also, it doe's not even compare to the diesel power. Yes I know that the damn deisel is higher priced (should not be of course) however I guess you reside in some rolling hill country, not where one is pulling a grade of 15% or better, and you need the extra power to even hold your rig back going down, Oh well you're probably to young to remember cw McCall.. "Wolf creek pass".
 
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 01:58 AM
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Yeah the song is about a semi coming down a hill hot and heavy but having a diesel isn't going to do anything for you...if anything the extra weight may hurt you. Diesels have no better brakes or suspension or otherwise. The op is from ny and while I can't speak for him I doubt a bunch of long 15% grades are in his weekend weekend warrior plans. He's not on here asking about hauling commercial across the country hes asking if he can get by taking his family camping on the weekends. At any rate, I think you can agree you've overstated the ESSENTIAL NEED of him buying s new truck. Or maybe you just have small b@!!$ and need a big diesel motor to make you feel better. Or maybe you have a need for a diesel but I don't think buying a new diesel truck is the end all be all solution to EVERY problem anyone could ever ask on a forum about super duty trucks.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 07:39 AM
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Thanks for all comments I stepped up to v10 picked up trl yesterday Iam very happy got crew can needed the room longer wheel base made big difference and went from 20" tires to 18 I find a big difference but your right it's no brainer diesel is better for pullin but if you don't want one v10 is good choice once again thanks this is very intesting to get different views look forward to gettin help in future happy new year to all
 
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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Haul your campers, trailers whatever with whatever you have, if it does the job for you, great, don't let anyone tell you that you have the wrong engine or gearing, enjoy and go traveling.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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Congrats on the new truck and trailer!

I don't know why it has to turn in to a gas vs diesel debate every time someone talks about pulling a trailer. Truth is people have been pulling campers all over the country with gas engines for the last 50+ years. Anyone who says a gas engine isn't capable of doing it simply doesn't know what they are talking about. Your 5.4 would have done the job just fine, but I think you will be very happy with the V-10.
 
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