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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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'12 Stupid auto lights.

Ok, What is the point of the auto lights in these newer cars and trucks?

I hate the idea of lights staying on for a while after I open a door. I'm old school and still shut headlights off at idle so this crap realy peeves me.

Is there a way to bypass or disable this function? The wifes '05 had the interior lights stay on for about 30 seconds and that was irritating but the running lights and the interior for over a minute! This is insane.

I tried pulling the light delay relay in the center console to no avail. Any ideas?

2012 base XLS escape.

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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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Some options are in the owner's manual but if what you want isn't mentioned, your SOL as they are programmed into the SJB.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 10:11 PM
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What is the sjb?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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What is the sjb?
Smart Junction Box which is behind the interior fuse panel.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Does the sjb happpen to be programable? Are dealers equiped to do this?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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The SJB is programmable, it must be done at a dealership. They will not modify anything that their lawyers consider a safety or security issue, but it cant hurt to ask. The lights do not harm anything, wont even run the battery down as the SJB has a shut off function to protect the battery from power drains. As far as cutting the lights off at idle, the electrical systems in the newer vehicles are more than capable of handeling it with out any adverse affects to mileage or performance.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2011 | 07:01 AM
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The SJB is programmable, it must be done at a dealership.
Yes, somewhat though. For instance, daylight running lights must be enabled by law on vehicles sold in Canada and is/was on the '09MY. Unless the manual is wrong, missing, etc., it's not listed as a feature that can be enabled/disabled.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 06:57 AM
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Almost all functions in the SJB can be enabled or disabled for "diagnostic" purposes. I had to go through this on my 06 Mustang when they had to disable the key fob operated windows after a bug started rolling them down on their own in early 06. I had a long talk with the field tech about the SJB and it's functions. Quite an interesting piece of electronics, even if the ECM and SJB are made by Delphi these days.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 08:22 AM
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Kinda bums me out when delphi starts making ford electronics.

I set an appointment up at the dealer. They dont know if they can change it or not. He said if they can I pay. If they cant its free.

Cars are more marvelous then they have been since the 50s. But they have lost their touch as a result of all this gadgetry.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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I agree, cars have become more of an appliance then something that can be enjoyed. Not like my old Corvair Corsa, you knew when you were driving that car
 
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Almost all functions in the SJB can be enabled or disabled for "diagnostic" purposes. I had to go through this on my 06 Mustang when they had to disable the key fob operated windows after a bug started rolling them down on their own in early 06. I had a long talk with the field tech about the SJB and it's functions. Quite an interesting piece of electronics, even if the ECM and SJB are made by Delphi these days.
I'm just going by what the manual states. When the infamous "hooting" noise started in '09, the first fix was to reprogram the 4WD module which didn't help anyway. The manual shows the 4WD module as not programable and after replacing it shows nothing needed either. Go figure...
 
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 03:51 PM
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I must be weird, I like having the lights on when I get out of the car. Otherwise it's really dark outside!
 
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Old Dec 29, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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My 64 F100. You feel the road. You actualy drive it. You alone control it. No computer telling you you can or cant. Cars now days are great in many ways but......The thrill is gone to say the least.
 
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Im old, lol... and I like that fancy gadgetry,, like the lights coming on in the interior, specially in the winter. I must be weird too....
 
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Being one of the rare occasions that I actually got to drive the Escape today... The autolamp timer function can be reached via the setup menu on the dash. I'm sure it's in the manual too, but I havent even cracked the shrinkwrap on that yet...lol
 
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