Fuel Consumption
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Fuel Consumption
Ok, I know there an extreme amount of variables that can come into play gear ratios, tire sizes, load and rpm, as well as other factors. My question isn't regarding how many miles per gallon you are getting, but if ther are some charts that show gallons per hour used at specific RPM's. I have a boat in which if I pay attention to the speed too much, the RPM's increase, and simultaneously fuel consumption increases exponentially.
For me, in the marine diesels, there are fuel consumption charts based upon the engine RPM's. I would love to see the same info for our new 6.7 engines.
Thanks for any and all help.
For me, in the marine diesels, there are fuel consumption charts based upon the engine RPM's. I would love to see the same info for our new 6.7 engines.
Thanks for any and all help.
#2
Interesting. I like the idea. Hope somebody out there is an engineer.
I also think it would be nice to know the maximum efficiency with max torque and horsepower. For example, I run at 72MPH a lot, which is about 1700 rpm. I would like to know if I am getting the most energy out of the fuel I can at this RPM. I suppose it's the same question but backwards to the way you present it?
I also think it would be nice to know the maximum efficiency with max torque and horsepower. For example, I run at 72MPH a lot, which is about 1700 rpm. I would like to know if I am getting the most energy out of the fuel I can at this RPM. I suppose it's the same question but backwards to the way you present it?
#3
Ok, I know there an extreme amount of variables that can come into play gear ratios, tire sizes, load and rpm, as well as other factors. My question isn't regarding how many miles per gallon you are getting, but if ther are some charts that show gallons per hour used at specific RPM's. I have a boat in which if I pay attention to the speed too much, the RPM's increase, and simultaneously fuel consumption increases exponentially.
For me, in the marine diesels, there are fuel consumption charts based upon the engine RPM's. I would love to see the same info for our new 6.7 engines.
Thanks for any and all help.
For me, in the marine diesels, there are fuel consumption charts based upon the engine RPM's. I would love to see the same info for our new 6.7 engines.
Thanks for any and all help.
Wind resistance has a similar effect on fuel consumption. I was bored one day and figured out that at 65 mph my 6.0L had to produce roughly 50 hp on a level road, to raise speed just 15 mph to 80 mph engine output had to nearly double. I now own a 6.7L and the "sweet spot" seems to be between 65 and 70 mph
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My initial question might not have been clear enough, sorry if that is the case, I am looking for engine RPM fuel consumption charts or tables. I.e. at 1600 RPM the engine under load will burn xxx gallons per hour, at 1700 RPM it burns xxy gallons per hour.
This information for me it would be another indicator for my target driving speed with the rpm's in mind.
This information for me it would be another indicator for my target driving speed with the rpm's in mind.
#6
You will not get any charts. as what load do you want? if there driving charts the load is forever changing. The only way you could get what i think your trying to get would be on a dyno. with that said i think your outta luck.. Your target driving speed and load will never come close to dyno results, Maybe a dealer would let you drive a used one for a while. Good luck in your quest
#7
My initial question might not have been clear enough, sorry if that is the case, I am looking for engine RPM fuel consumption charts or tables. I.e. at 1600 RPM the engine under load will burn xxx gallons per hour, at 1700 RPM it burns xxy gallons per hour.
This information for me it would be another indicator for my target driving speed with the rpm's in mind.
This information for me it would be another indicator for my target driving speed with the rpm's in mind.
My boat on the other hand is good for about 7 gallons per hr at 3000 RPM. I got that data from boattest.com and validated it with some testing on my own.(I was able to find a similar hull/exact engine setup.)
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#8
The gph is calculated with a given engine against the prop curve. Prop load vs rpm shouldn't change as much with external variables as aero on a truck load does.
You could do a plot for fuel consumption vs rpm but you would have to do it for 6th gear locked, 6th gear converter, 5th gear locked, etc. This would also vary with ambient temp, wind, humidity, etc.
The vehicle OEM's usually have figured the best combination of rpm and gear ratio for max economy. For older than 2007 vehicles this was at 55 mph (where the EPA rating is). 65 for newer vehicles (that have an EPA mpg rating). As such, sometimes you lose efficiency either side of the EPA speed.
Case-in-point: I drove a 08 K1500 a few years ago. It has 5.3L with cylinder deactivation. Per the dash display 63 mph was 17mpg on 8 cylinders. 67 mph was 17 mpg on 8 cylinders. 65 mph was 20 mpg on 4 cylinders.l The cyl deactivation complicates it a little but the point is that the powertrain control was optimized at 65 mph.
You could do a plot for fuel consumption vs rpm but you would have to do it for 6th gear locked, 6th gear converter, 5th gear locked, etc. This would also vary with ambient temp, wind, humidity, etc.
The vehicle OEM's usually have figured the best combination of rpm and gear ratio for max economy. For older than 2007 vehicles this was at 55 mph (where the EPA rating is). 65 for newer vehicles (that have an EPA mpg rating). As such, sometimes you lose efficiency either side of the EPA speed.
Case-in-point: I drove a 08 K1500 a few years ago. It has 5.3L with cylinder deactivation. Per the dash display 63 mph was 17mpg on 8 cylinders. 67 mph was 17 mpg on 8 cylinders. 65 mph was 20 mpg on 4 cylinders.l The cyl deactivation complicates it a little but the point is that the powertrain control was optimized at 65 mph.
#9
Thank you everyone for comments. It appears that the fuel consumption per hour versus engine RPM's is not available. Thanks for all the commentary regarding miles per gallon. I realize there are variables including loads, external factors such as wind resistance, but it was my thoughts right or wrong if I am running at 1700 rpm's in 5 th gear or 6th gear, the fuel consumption per HOUR would be the same, the variable would show up in the miles traveled. Just as in the marine industry, my sail boat burns X fuel per hour at a specific RPM. The variable shows up in distance travelled. I.e.the current if it is helping you or hurting you, just like the wind either helps you in our trucks or hurts you. My particular boat is a sail boat, and the wind usually helps, but the constant is the consumption per hour. The turbo boost in the marine engine is boosting as I go up swells, and goes away as I desend swells. Usually it is more predictable than the roads in the pacific northwest, but if you are traveling round trip on highways,the climbs and descents balance out.
My goal with the questions was to try to find for myself a target RPM range to travel in. Usually I travel within a few miles of e posted speed limits, but I have been known to push that driving north to south through the middle of Nevada.
Again, thank everyone for your help.
My goal with the questions was to try to find for myself a target RPM range to travel in. Usually I travel within a few miles of e posted speed limits, but I have been known to push that driving north to south through the middle of Nevada.
Again, thank everyone for your help.
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Ok, I know there an extreme amount of variables that can come into play gear ratios, tire sizes, load and rpm, as well as other factors. My question isn't regarding how many miles per gallon you are getting, but if ther are some charts that show gallons per hour used at specific RPM's. I have a boat in which if I pay attention to the speed too much, the RPM's increase, and simultaneously fuel consumption increases exponentially.
For me, in the marine diesels, there are fuel consumption charts based upon the engine RPM's. I would love to see the same info for our new 6.7 engines.
Thanks for any and all help.
For me, in the marine diesels, there are fuel consumption charts based upon the engine RPM's. I would love to see the same info for our new 6.7 engines.
Thanks for any and all help.
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