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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 08:02 PM
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5.0 low idle when cold sometimes

I've been searching through these forums for answers and my situation is slightly different. The truck is a '96 5.0 M5OD. When it is cold sometimes the truck will not idle first thing in the morning. I will crank it on and it will maybe idle at like 300-400 RPMS... enough to cause the oil pressure gauge to move low and the lights to dim in the cab etc.

There are two situations after this:
1.) Sometimes it will finally begin to idle. I will hear something become unstuck and the truck will begin to idle at its normal 1200 RPMS or whatever it is when it's cold. I can then begin my trip like normal.

2.) Sometimes it doesn't fix itself. The truck will idle very low my whole commute and will nearly die when I push the clutch in. When shifting gears the revs drop like a rock, rather than slowly fall like it normally does. I really have to speed shift or blip the throttle to even come close to rev matching gears (yes even going from 2nd into 3rd etc..).

I tried pulling codes 2 minutes ago and everything came back clear. The truck is getting around 15 MPG and has pretty normal power. Last year I replaced the gasket for the idle control valve.

Is there anything that I should look at specifically? It's too bad this is intermittent because I can't always repeat the problem to troubleshoot.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Mine is KINDA the same way. It only does it on the VERY first cold (sub 40 deg's) start. I have to hold the gas down a tiny bit for a split second while the engine cranks, then I can let go and it'll idle normally.

I've pulled codes too. Only one I got was a ECT sensor out of range (I did the test with a cold engine, gonna repeat with a warm to see if it goes away).
 
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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Have you cleaned or replaced the idle control valve? Might be sticking slightly, causing a vacuum leak and a low idle. Can of brake clean and let dry. A new one is like $75?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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Last year I remember cleaning it out good... Im thinking that I may need to replace it. All other sensors involved would throw a code correct?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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About 55F and drizzly this morning... fired up just fine. ugh...
 
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