Can anyone tell me how to remove the vent window from my '61 F100 (stepside, not uni... if it matters)?

The bottom mounting pin is broken on mine and I've got a donor door to get one from, but not sure how to get at it.

thanks,
Michael

 

Its not an easy repair firstoff...time and tedius when fasteners dont cooperate. If this is a nice truck or one you are restoring there will be some parts I recomend buying before as they typically are ruined when dealing with vent frame replacement.
The window sweepers in and out need to be removed and have several clips that are integral with them which are a bugger to get out to say the least. These can be acquired at Dennis carpenter along with the other weatherstripping parts you choose to buy. With the sweepers and clips removed you will need to undo the division bar from the door...there are 2 phillips screws at the top of the door easily seen/accessed by standing on the door sill and looking down at it.
Remove the door access panel or door pouch depending on what your door has to gain access to the inner parts. there are 2 nut and bolts that attach the lower part of the division bar to the door...these are right above the area where the door access plate goes and can be seen when looking up into the door inners. There is also one Phillips screw that is seen on the door on the inside which is slightly forward of where the division bar is and 2-3 inches below the door top edge where the windows are. be careful not to bugger this screw up as they arent typical phillips screws and are easily buggered up. If needed I have these screws. the door glass should be removed from the regulator by removing the spring clip that holds the plastic roller to the regulator...once thats removed roll the window down and push/pull the regulator from the glass and lower it to the door bottom and situate out of the way. The glass run which runs across the top and down the rear will need to be at least partially removed as the upper division bar bracket is covered by this. There are 2 phillips screws on the angled part of the door frame in front of the vent window area...seen when the doors opened and easily seen. with these screws all removed note or take a picture of how the vent weatherstrip fits on the door inside and out...The assembly will slide straight back and you will see 2 phillips screws holding a bracket that the vent frame upper pivot attaches to the main vent frame that the weatherstrip goes into.
From inside the door you will feel the bottom pivot nut and spring and shims/spacers/anti squeak area...the lower pivot is splined as there are a couple of splined washers/stop that go onto the shaft in a certain order.
If the donor door is a junk door I would recomend removing seperating the division bar from the vent frame weatherstrip channel/vent assembly...there is a small phillips screw accessed by a small hole slightly forward of the division bar. the hole is in the weatherstrip and given its most likely hard as a rock will fall apart to a degree...once the screw is removed the division bar can be slid back leaving the entire vent frame mounting assembly ready for removal from the donor door...once its out you will see the setup on the lower pivot with the spring and such.
You should be able to remove your broken frame from your door by reremoving the 2 phillips screws from the vent frame weatherstrip retainer and the window and frame will be free...if you have enough to grab onto with vise grips without seperating your division bar from that weatherstrip channel thats a plus...otherwise you will need to get a new vent weatherstrip from Dennis carpenter..they have the best reproduction weatherstripping by a long shot. If you have to get new weatherstripping pull out the old...usually a chiseling act until you can grab enough to pull it out of the channel. remove your old stub of the lower pivot and reverse the disassembly procets...its not a quick and easy job...do it inside if possible and plan on spending the day doing it.
Make sure you have good screwdrivers that fit into the screws fully and get a full bite...the one screw that ties the middle of the division bar to the door...like the other door screws you see are the hardest to remove usually as they arent a typical Phillips screw you see in a hardware store. If theres paint in them remove the paint before trying to remove it.


I hope this helps

- cs65

 

Thank you for the time and effort it took to write such a detailed explanation. I really appreciate it. I had no idea so much was involved, but now I'll know what to expect when I tackle it. Thanks again!

 

Im happy to help...I just pulled one out from a donor door a couple weeks ago...its not the easiest job...but as I said, replacing the weatherstrip and fuzzies/anti rattler parts is advised since you have to basicly take them out to do the vent frame replacement.
If you feel ambitious, there is a kit sold that does both doors for a moderate price.



- cs65