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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 09:19 AM
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91 has ZERO electrical power

Hey there. My 91 f150 has zero electrical power to anything. Havnt tried too much but I know this is not a battery problem. Ive read it could be a bad ground, anyone know where the main ground is? I've heard it could be a fusible link, is there one that would be a more probable culprit than another? I really need to get this thing running again so please I need help. It was running then died while I was driving. No power. None. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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Your 91 will have fuse links at the fender mounted relay, follow the positive battery cable to the lug those links will be located at.

Fuse link/s might not show any visible signs of damage yet still be fried, pull on each one (no need pull real hard) if burn out it'll get longer, stretching the casing.

Replacement fuse link is available at the auto parts, match rating stamped on casing.

If you find that is not the problem post back let us know we'll go from there.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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I've got a similar problem with my 93. Tried plenty of things but still nothing
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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Do you have a voltmeter or test light? Check voltage at battery, then move the neg lead to the block to check the ground. follow the positive lead and check for power at the relay. It could be as simple as a bad connection at the battery.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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My vote is for either fried connections between the cable and battery clamp, or the ground on the hoist eye in the head. As there are multiple fuselinks, something or other should get power if one of them burns.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Ive replaced my cables and cleaned Grounds. I believe I have it narrowed down to the ignition signal wire that goes from ignition to starter solenoid. But I'm not entirely sure.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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Mitch: Did you look at the safety switch on the clutch pushrod? Sometimes it doesn't work or needs to be adjusted. Same goes for the ignition switch (the actual switch, not the key cylinder) that bolts to the steering column.

cfdr114: Please ignore my statement about the hoist eye. My truck has a '79 motor and I forgot that a '92 wouldn't have any hoist eyes. I'd still look for bad connections near the battery though.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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Try jiggling the key towards yourself, the mechanisms in the steering column sometimes gunk up and the spring eventually can't overpower it to return the ignition switch to the RUN position from START.

Do the headlights work?
 
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Old Dec 17, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Hmm haven't tried that. I'll give it a shot. Been truckless for about a month now with this puzzling problem...
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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UPDATE: I replaced the battery cable from the battery to the relay on my fender. I now have headlights, interior lights nothing on the dash though. It won't do anything from the ignition. But if I bridge the post on the relay it will move.power down to my starter. Any ideas? The relay has been replaced since after my problems began. Also, with the ignition turned over I'm not getting a reading on by voltmeter on the second post(the one that goes down to starter) thanks again
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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"But if I bridge the post on the relay it will move.power down to my starter. Any ideas?" By "relay" do you mean you are bridging the posts on the solenoid to send power to the starter? what happens at each step of the key?
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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Correct. And nothing happens at any position when I turn the key.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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you might have blown that solenoid. there is also a (i believe) a fuseable red wire that comes off of the rear post of that solenoid. check that for current. will the truck start by simply crossing the solenoid? with the key in any position? does the solenoid click with the key in the start position? If you have no click from the solenoid then that might be the issue. If I recall correctly you have to have the ignition in the start position then bridge the solenoid. This happened to me after I cross wired a jump while extremely hungover @ 5 am. Damn Holiday party open bar the night before!!! Damn getting old!! I was lucky enough to catch the problem when the solenoid just started smoking. All I had to replace was the 10A fuse in the back of the stereo. You should also check any fuse that has anything to do with dash instrumentation. That is the limit of my experience with the issues you are having, good luck!
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Okay I suppose it could be bad but like I mentioned I already replaced it. And have already checked my fuses
 
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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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It starts when you bridge the solenoid right? In what key position? in all? Check that fused red wire that come off of the solenoid for current. Sorry I didn't pick up everything from the previous posts, mia culpa. Does the solenoid click when you turn the key to "start" position? If there is no click then there is either no current to the solenoid (unlikely since you can bridge it) or the switch leg to the ignition is bad (i.e. the solenoid is powered but isn't closing the circuit) I'm just trying to see if it could be a solenoid issue rather than an ignition issue. Once you eliminate the solenoid completely you can refine your diagnosis.
 
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