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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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I'm looking for some feedback on stabilizer options for 2011 F250 (stock w/ snow plow prep pkg) running 275/70/18 BFG ATs. I read many threads related to bump steer/death wobble that say are "cured/lessened" by the installation of the dual stabilizer.

So that said, I was looking into the Rancho dual system and they say their product cannot be used on stock height vehicles due to interference between the track bar and center bracket of the stabilizer if the suspension bottoms out. Wanted to know if anyone has some practical experience with that.

Also found some posts on the "carli/bilstein" set up. It seems to be liked by those that have installed it, but wanted to know if it is significantly better than rancho stock replacement (PS - I've already replaced the stock unit w/ Rancho).

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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 01:13 PM
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I confirmed with Rancho about the dual stab setup with a factory height vehicle, possible issues there.

I saw the Carli Bilstein stabilizer and dumped the link into my favorites, ready for purchase. I sent the video of my quasi-wheel wobble to the service manager along with my displeasure that they drove my truck 1.5 miles as a "road test"... Haven't heard back from him yet if they're going to do anything about it.

I know a couple of guys here in the 6.7 forum that are running 35's with the Carli and haven't had any issues. I'll probably go that route (keeping mine stock height for now).
 
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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I am running the Icon dual stabilizer setup with 35" tires and have no issues with bumpsteer or the death wobble. I was starting to get the wobble pretty bad before I installed the leveling kit and the dual setup. I can hit the breaks in the concrete freeways at 65 mph and it stays straight. I ran the dual stabilizer setup for a few days before I installed the leveling kit to make sure it did not cause any issues before the level kit was installed so I know it will fit on a factory setup.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 03:57 PM
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My truck is stock height so I went with the Carli and it solved my issue.....
 
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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My truck has a Kelderman dual damper steering stabilizer. A well engineered product at excellent quality. Highly recommendable. Maybe a bit pricey (approx $800).
 

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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 08:59 PM
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My truck has a Kelderman dual damper steering stabilizer. A well engineered product at excellent quality. Highly recommendable. Maybe a bit pricey (approx $800).
Maybe? LOL
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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Maybe? LOL
Hope this isn't a silly question, but is that truck 4wd?
 
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The Carli/Bilstein works great for me. I have no issues. I never really had any issues with the stock unit until I got the Carli suspension and starting pounding on it a lot harder.

I wanted a dual King stabilizer because I have king shocks and love them.
But this is what I was told by someone "in the know"

" > The problem with most of the dual setups on the market is that they use
> emulsion shocks as opposed to independent floating pistons. This causes
> excessive cavitation that render them almost useless other than for looks. I
> recently had a customer that had death wobble on his new 2011 Dodge 2500. He
> switched out his factory stabilizer for a dual King setup that helped a
> little but didn't fix it. He then put a "new" factory stabilizer on it and
> it went away. Just to be safe he added a Carli High Mount Bilstein 7100
> since he is running heavy aftermarket wheels/tires.

"


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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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The Carli/Bilstein works great for me. I have no issues. I never really had any issues with the stock unit until I got the Carli suspension and starting pounding on it a lot harder.
So, you replaced your stock shocks first and you still had death wobble issues?

It would be good to note if those that have replaced their steering stabilizer also replaced their stock shocks as the more I read about this, the more it seems the OEM shocks and stabilizer should be replaced.

At least I know my OEM "Rancho" shocks are headed for the trash this weekend in favor of the 5100 Bilsteins.
 
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Originally Posted by _red rocket_
So, you replaced your stock shocks first and you still had death wobble issues?

It would be good to note if those that have replaced their steering stabilizer also replaced their stock shocks as the more I read about this, the more it seems the OEM shocks and stabilizer should be replaced.

At least I know my OEM "Rancho" shocks are headed for the trash this weekend in favor of the 5100 Bilsteins.
No, I never had death wobble stock or at any stage of modifications (thanks goodness). From some of the vids I have seen on here, the truck would have gone bye bye if I had do deal with anything like that!

After the Carli suspension, the stock stabilizer just could not keep up. I pretty much toased it 1 week off road driving.

OEM "Rancho" are the worst shocks I have ever had on any vehicle in my life!

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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jlalanas
Hope this isn't a silly question, but is that truck 4wd?
Hmm - did you see the "little bump" near the middle of the axle? It sure is a 4WD....

The picture was not taken to show the stabilizer: There are two 7100 Bilstein shocks specific for this application working the tie-rod ends against a center of axle mounted anker-plate. The factory mounted stabilizer remains in place.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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Hmm - did you see the "little bump" near the middle of the axle? It sure is a 4WD....
Actually, I didn't which is why I asked. Did you possibly "white out" the picture below the truck to emphasize the stabilizers?

I only asked because I know the stabilizer products are very specific to the application.

Thanks for the feedback.
 
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