Steering Stabilizers
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Steering Stabilizers
I'm looking for some feedback on stabilizer options for 2011 F250 (stock w/ snow plow prep pkg) running 275/70/18 BFG ATs. I read many threads related to bump steer/death wobble that say are "cured/lessened" by the installation of the dual stabilizer.
So that said, I was looking into the Rancho dual system and they say their product cannot be used on stock height vehicles due to interference between the track bar and center bracket of the stabilizer if the suspension bottoms out. Wanted to know if anyone has some practical experience with that.
Also found some posts on the "carli/bilstein" set up. It seems to be liked by those that have installed it, but wanted to know if it is significantly better than rancho stock replacement (PS - I've already replaced the stock unit w/ Rancho).
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So that said, I was looking into the Rancho dual system and they say their product cannot be used on stock height vehicles due to interference between the track bar and center bracket of the stabilizer if the suspension bottoms out. Wanted to know if anyone has some practical experience with that.
Also found some posts on the "carli/bilstein" set up. It seems to be liked by those that have installed it, but wanted to know if it is significantly better than rancho stock replacement (PS - I've already replaced the stock unit w/ Rancho).
Thanks!
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I confirmed with Rancho about the dual stab setup with a factory height vehicle, possible issues there.
I saw the Carli Bilstein stabilizer and dumped the link into my favorites, ready for purchase. I sent the video of my quasi-wheel wobble to the service manager along with my displeasure that they drove my truck 1.5 miles as a "road test"... Haven't heard back from him yet if they're going to do anything about it.
I know a couple of guys here in the 6.7 forum that are running 35's with the Carli and haven't had any issues. I'll probably go that route (keeping mine stock height for now).
I confirmed with Rancho about the dual stab setup with a factory height vehicle, possible issues there.
I saw the Carli Bilstein stabilizer and dumped the link into my favorites, ready for purchase. I sent the video of my quasi-wheel wobble to the service manager along with my displeasure that they drove my truck 1.5 miles as a "road test"... Haven't heard back from him yet if they're going to do anything about it.
I know a couple of guys here in the 6.7 forum that are running 35's with the Carli and haven't had any issues. I'll probably go that route (keeping mine stock height for now).
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I am running the Icon dual stabilizer setup with 35" tires and have no issues with bumpsteer or the death wobble. I was starting to get the wobble pretty bad before I installed the leveling kit and the dual setup. I can hit the breaks in the concrete freeways at 65 mph and it stays straight. I ran the dual stabilizer setup for a few days before I installed the leveling kit to make sure it did not cause any issues before the level kit was installed so I know it will fit on a factory setup.
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The Carli/Bilstein works great for me. I have no issues. I never really had any issues with the stock unit until I got the Carli suspension and starting pounding on it a lot harder.
I wanted a dual King stabilizer because I have king shocks and love them.
But this is what I was told by someone "in the know"
" > The problem with most of the dual setups on the market is that they use
> emulsion shocks as opposed to independent floating pistons. This causes
> excessive cavitation that render them almost useless other than for looks. I
> recently had a customer that had death wobble on his new 2011 Dodge 2500. He
> switched out his factory stabilizer for a dual King setup that helped a
> little but didn't fix it. He then put a "new" factory stabilizer on it and
> it went away. Just to be safe he added a Carli High Mount Bilstein 7100
> since he is running heavy aftermarket wheels/tires.
"
Thanks
I wanted a dual King stabilizer because I have king shocks and love them.
But this is what I was told by someone "in the know"
" > The problem with most of the dual setups on the market is that they use
> emulsion shocks as opposed to independent floating pistons. This causes
> excessive cavitation that render them almost useless other than for looks. I
> recently had a customer that had death wobble on his new 2011 Dodge 2500. He
> switched out his factory stabilizer for a dual King setup that helped a
> little but didn't fix it. He then put a "new" factory stabilizer on it and
> it went away. Just to be safe he added a Carli High Mount Bilstein 7100
> since he is running heavy aftermarket wheels/tires.
"
Thanks
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It would be good to note if those that have replaced their steering stabilizer also replaced their stock shocks as the more I read about this, the more it seems the OEM shocks and stabilizer should be replaced.
At least I know my OEM "Rancho" shocks are headed for the trash this weekend in favor of the 5100 Bilsteins.
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So, you replaced your stock shocks first and you still had death wobble issues?
It would be good to note if those that have replaced their steering stabilizer also replaced their stock shocks as the more I read about this, the more it seems the OEM shocks and stabilizer should be replaced.
At least I know my OEM "Rancho" shocks are headed for the trash this weekend in favor of the 5100 Bilsteins.
It would be good to note if those that have replaced their steering stabilizer also replaced their stock shocks as the more I read about this, the more it seems the OEM shocks and stabilizer should be replaced.
At least I know my OEM "Rancho" shocks are headed for the trash this weekend in favor of the 5100 Bilsteins.
After the Carli suspension, the stock stabilizer just could not keep up. I pretty much toased it 1 week off road driving.
OEM "Rancho" are the worst shocks I have ever had on any vehicle in my life!
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Hmm - did you see the "little bump" near the middle of the axle? It sure is a 4WD....
The picture was not taken to show the stabilizer: There are two 7100 Bilstein shocks specific for this application working the tie-rod ends against a center of axle mounted anker-plate. The factory mounted stabilizer remains in place.
The picture was not taken to show the stabilizer: There are two 7100 Bilstein shocks specific for this application working the tie-rod ends against a center of axle mounted anker-plate. The factory mounted stabilizer remains in place.
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I only asked because I know the stabilizer products are very specific to the application.
Thanks for the feedback.