1997-2006 Expedition & Navigator 1997 - 2002 and 2003 - 2006 Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator Discussion

3 valve versus 4 valve

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 12-02-2011, 07:43 PM
kenny nunez's Avatar
kenny nunez
kenny nunez is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Kenner,La.
Posts: 1,870
Received 166 Likes on 128 Posts
Question 3 valve versus 4 valve

My question is which 5.4 performs the best, 4 or 3 valve ? Kenny Nunez
 
  #2  
Old 12-02-2011, 09:34 PM
5.4T's Avatar
5.4T
5.4T is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
can you give a little more info like what years vs which?
i was about to buy an Expedition 06 w/ 3v trition but the my 02 Navigator i think got it as far as preformance, but idk the expo might not been tuned up so idk but as far as the 03-04 navigator there engines are to sluggish 4 me i mean 0-60 in 10+ sec .......but what are you looking at ?which years?
 
  #3  
Old 12-02-2011, 10:43 PM
kenny nunez's Avatar
kenny nunez
kenny nunez is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Kenner,La.
Posts: 1,870
Received 166 Likes on 128 Posts
3 valve or 4 valve

I believe , .that 04 was the last year for the 4 valve, does the 05 or 06 seem to perform better, I am thinking about installing one in my 68 100, the 3 valve engines are newer and finding a low mileage one is easier.
 
  #4  
Old 12-02-2011, 10:51 PM
5.4T's Avatar
5.4T
5.4T is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yes they will perform better then the 4v 03-04 years i would go with the 05-06 3v
 
  #5  
Old 12-03-2011, 09:42 AM
Moto Mel's Avatar
Moto Mel
Moto Mel is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chesapeake, Va.
Posts: 4,584
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I would go with the 5.4 4 valve as the DOHC has been proven to be the more tunable engine. I would like to have a set of cams ground to match the profiles of a 4 valve Honda, Kawasaki or Suzuki rice rocket. They make good horse power at over 10,000 rpm, idle nicely and give great fuel economy. The DOHC engines are not near their rpm and power limits in the Mark VIIIs, Navigators or Mustangs. There is still a lot to be had from those engines. A well tuned Mark VIII should be able to do well over 200 mph on Bonneville with good rods and cams and without a turbo/super charger.
 
  #6  
Old 12-04-2011, 12:38 PM
Johnny Langton's Avatar
Johnny Langton
Johnny Langton is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SE Texas
Posts: 4,171
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Moto Mel
A well tuned Mark VIII should be able to do well over 200 mph on Bonneville with good rods and cams and without a turbo/super charger.
A pretty much stock Mark VIII with very minor changes has already been 182mph out there back when they were in development. More here:
1993 Bonneville Mark VIII
JL
 
  #7  
Old 12-04-2011, 01:26 PM
Moto Mel's Avatar
Moto Mel
Moto Mel is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Chesapeake, Va.
Posts: 4,584
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I believe the engine and transmission speed was redlined by Ford to keep owners from going as fast as the cars were capable of going if they had good rods.
I know about that car as I'm a member of the Mark VIII club(s) also. The last I heard the museum was going to dispose of that car and one of the clubs was trying to aquire it. There was also a member who was trying to buy it. I don't know what finally became of it. Do you have any info on that?
Jerry Wroblewski is/was a transmission engineer involved in the design and development of the 4R70 trans. He has built and upgraded many 4R70 transmissions and his mods are/were widely used by the club members. The last I heard he worked for Rousch and divided his time between Michigan and Arizona.
 
  #8  
Old 12-04-2011, 01:40 PM
Johnny Langton's Avatar
Johnny Langton
Johnny Langton is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SE Texas
Posts: 4,171
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Moto Mel
I believe the engine and transmission speed was redlined by Ford to keep owners from going as fast as the cars were capable of going if they had good rods.
I know about that car as I'm a member of the Mark VIII club(s) also. The last I heard the museum was going to dispose of that car and one of the clubs was trying to aquire it. There was also a member who was trying to buy it. I don't know what finally became of it. Do you have any info on that?
Jerry Wroblewski is/was a transmission engineer involved in the design and development of the 4R70 trans. He has built and upgraded many 4R70 transmissions and his mods are/were widely used by the club members. The last I heard he worked for Rousch and divided his time between Michigan and Arizona.
Jerry is a personal friend of mine. He hasn't worked for Roush in years. I have no idea on what happened to that car.
JL
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
sbeamer
Modular V8 (4.6L, 5.4L)
2
11-07-2013 07:56 PM
derek4343
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
8
09-30-2006 06:56 PM
BonebrakeJones
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
1
01-02-2006 12:10 AM



Quick Reply: 3 valve versus 4 valve



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:41 AM.