Notices
Excursion - King of SUVs 2000 - 2005 Ford Excursion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Modifications V10 Excursion 4x4

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 04:19 AM
  #16  
Xv10's Avatar
Xv10
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
I asked the guy who will do the modifications to take pictures BEFORE and AFTER - will post them as soon as available
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:42 AM
  #17  
fordboy67's Avatar
fordboy67
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,822
Likes: 0
From: Minnesota
That will be cool to see
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 08:37 AM
  #18  
JimPat's Avatar
JimPat
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
From: Itinerant at present
X10 - I wouldn't worry too much about the extra oil cooler and transmission pan/cooler. I have the same vehicle and tow a 6800lb airstream and don't have an issue at all with the temps. I'd LOVE to hear how the new gears work out as I have the stock 373's and - again - no issues towing but am interested in higher gearing. I also looked at the Banks set-up you mentioned and when I decide to start robbing banks (pun intended) I'll have one put on - gives it another 75 foot-pounds (pound-feet?) of torque; with those gears you'll be a pulling monster!!!! Having said all that - I've done a LOT of work on the front-end as far as curing the wander problem. Ensure you have all those issues worked out before you get it delivered.
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 01:46 PM
  #19  
saz2686's Avatar
saz2686
Senior User
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 360
Likes: 0
From: jackson nj
Originally Posted by JimPat
I've done a LOT of work on the front-end as far as curing the wander problem. Ensure you have all those issues worked out before you get it delivered.
That is a great thought. Might be a good idea to have the dealer check ball joints, sway bar bushings, anything else someone can suggest?
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 02:24 PM
  #20  
njneer1's Avatar
njneer1
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 1
From: Southwest VA
Club FTE Silver Member

Don't forget the steering gear.....good time to get a Redhead gear.....hard to get in Germany I am sure
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 03:24 PM
  #21  
Xv10's Avatar
Xv10
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
fordboy67,
You have Mike's 5star tuner? I read many good things about it and was tempted to also get one, but I have decided to go for the Banks Ottomind programmer as I will also get a Banks cool air intake, Banks headers and Banks y-pipe. In the future, I might want to try the 5star but how difficult is it to install? Do you think I could simply order it and have it installed here? Or does the installation require specialist expertise...
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 03:28 PM
  #22  
Xv10's Avatar
Xv10
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by JimPat
X10 - I wouldn't worry too much about the extra oil cooler and transmission pan/cooler. I have the same vehicle and tow a 6800lb airstream and don't have an issue at all with the temps. I'd LOVE to hear how the new gears work out as I have the stock 373's and - again - no issues towing but am interested in higher gearing. I also looked at the Banks set-up you mentioned and when I decide to start robbing banks (pun intended) I'll have one put on - gives it another 75 foot-pounds (pound-feet?) of torque; with those gears you'll be a pulling monster!!!! Having said all that - I've done a LOT of work on the front-end as far as curing the wander problem. Ensure you have all those issues worked out before you get it delivered.
JimPat,
I'll let you know how the 4.56 work out. Actually, I am not towing at all. I just want to have better acceleration at start-up.
On the wandering problem, could you please elaborate? What exactly are the issues and what did you do about them? Thanks!
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 03:38 PM
  #23  
Xv10's Avatar
Xv10
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by saz2686
That is a great thought. Might be a good idea to have the dealer check ball joints, sway bar bushings, anything else someone can suggest?
Scott,
I see you also have a 4x4, 4" lift and 35" tires. My X is also a 4x4 and will get a 4" ProComp suspension lift. I am planning to put 35"x12.5"/R20 (=315x60x20) Nitto Trail Grapplers but am a bit worried about rubbing issues (leafs, fender, undercarriage, etc.). Some say the 35"x12.5" will fit the 4" lift with a minor rubbing issue at full turn. Could you confirm that? What is your advice? Thanks a lot!!

PS: I sent you a couple of messages on Youtube some weeks ago and you recommended me to sign up to this forum - so, here I am!! Thank you for this great advice!
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 03:44 PM
  #24  
Xv10's Avatar
Xv10
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by njneer1
Don't forget the steering gear.....good time to get a Redhead gear.....hard to get in Germany I am sure
Well, there are some Xs around in Germany BUT this car was never produced here nor offered by Ford dealers. So, all Xs you see here were imported by private individuals or used-car dealers. This means, spare parts will need to be imported from the US, so a very careful inspection needs to be done prior to shipment.
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 04:02 PM
  #25  
JimPat's Avatar
JimPat
Senior User
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
From: Itinerant at present
Redhead gear is a hand-built steering box from some cat in Washington State. I ordered one and put it in and it makes steering seem like a dream. As far as wandering - there are a myriad of threads here about that but suffice to say that the Excursion eats ball joints; needs a positive castor adjustment; the stock tie-rod connecting links (?- having a brain cramp) have a tendency to have the bushings rot out; etc. I have 78K miles on mine and had a terrible wander problem. I did the brakes/rotors all around; replaced the connecting links; replaced the steering box with the red-head; replaced all the shocks with Rancho 9000's; replaced the ball joints; and finally replaced the front springs and had the rear springs re-arched with an additional leaf put in; had all the tires "road-force" balanced. Thing drives like a dream now. I actually looked into the Banks set-up you are doing but I've put enough money into the Beast for this year maybe next year if you have great reviews.
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 05:01 PM
  #26  
Xv10's Avatar
Xv10
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by JimPat
Redhead gear is a hand-built steering box from some cat in Washington State. I ordered one and put it in and it makes steering seem like a dream. As far as wandering - there are a myriad of threads here about that but suffice to say that the Excursion eats ball joints; needs a positive castor adjustment; the stock tie-rod connecting links (?- having a brain cramp) have a tendency to have the bushings rot out; etc. I have 78K miles on mine and had a terrible wander problem. I did the brakes/rotors all around; replaced the connecting links; replaced the steering box with the red-head; replaced all the shocks with Rancho 9000's; replaced the ball joints; and finally replaced the front springs and had the rear springs re-arched with an additional leaf put in; had all the tires "road-force" balanced. Thing drives like a dream now. I actually looked into the Banks set-up you are doing but I've put enough money into the Beast for this year maybe next year if you have great reviews.
JimPat,
thanks, this is very helpful. I will do some search about wandering here at FTE. I will send your list of issues to the Ford dealer who has the car now to check this stuff before shipment.
I will definitely let you know my experience with the Banks kit. I must say, though, that my expectations are not THAT high as the Banks kit generates only some 56 hp more. Not enough I guess to significantly improve acceleration from start-up as the X is a very heavy vehicle. I think the X in stock version takes about 10.4 seconds for 0-60 mph and with the Banks kit about 8.5 seconds. This is not bad but I would love 6.0-6.5 seconds (I'd love to see the look on the faces of all those Porsche Cayenne and BMW X5 drivers...). Unfortunately, such acceleration requires far more than an additional 56 hp only, probably 150 hp or even more. So, how can you get there? I think the answer is: only through performance tuning such as boring, stroking, increasing the size of the valves, etc. But this requires then to strengthen the drive train to be able to digest the large increase in power... So, a very, very costly endeavor.
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 06:20 PM
  #27  
njneer1's Avatar
njneer1
Posting Guru
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 1
From: Southwest VA
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by Xv10
JimPat,
thanks, this is very helpful. I will do some search about wandering here at FTE. I will send your list of issues to the Ford dealer who has the car now to check this stuff before shipment.
I will definitely let you know my experience with the Banks kit. I must say, though, that my expectations are not THAT high as the Banks kit generates only some 56 hp more. Not enough I guess to significantly improve acceleration from start-up as the X is a very heavy vehicle. I think the X in stock version takes about 10.4 seconds for 0-60 mph and with the Banks kit about 8.5 seconds. This is not bad but I would love 6.0-6.5 seconds (I'd love to see the look on the faces of all those Porsche Cayenne and BMW X5 drivers...). Unfortunately, such acceleration requires far more than an additional 56 hp only, probably 150 hp or even more. So, how can you get there? I think the answer is: only through performance tuning such as boring, stroking, increasing the size of the valves, etc. But this requires then to strengthen the drive train to be able to digest the large increase in power... So, a very, very costly endeavor.
There's always nitrous !!......go baby go....you have the same drive train as a diesel......it can stand the extra torque !
 
Reply
Old Dec 2, 2011 | 07:14 PM
  #28  
mustangz_04's Avatar
mustangz_04
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
Xv10,

I have a 2003 Ex V10 4x4, with 315/75/r16's (34.4 inches) stock height, and the only rubbing is against the wheel well liner, no bumper rub or leaf spring rub. With a 4inch lift you might have a tiny bit at full turn, but i seriously doubt it would be anything but tiny annoyance.
 
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2011 | 05:24 AM
  #29  
Xv10's Avatar
Xv10
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by mustangz_04
Xv10,

I have a 2003 Ex V10 4x4, with 315/75/r16's (34.4 inches) stock height, and the only rubbing is against the wheel well liner, no bumper rub or leaf spring rub. With a 4inch lift you might have a tiny bit at full turn, but i seriously doubt it would be anything but tiny annoyance.
mustangz_04,
Thanks, this is very useful to know! Do I understand you correctly that your X is NOT lifted and yet the only "issue" you have with your 34.4" x 12.4" tires is some rubbing against the wheel well liner?
 
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2011 | 05:27 AM
  #30  
Xv10's Avatar
Xv10
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 152
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by njneer1
There's always nitrous !!......go baby go....you have the same drive train as a diesel......it can stand the extra torque !
njneer1,
thanks! i'll see how my X performs when I finally got it shipped over here. all the mods it'll get do already cost me a fortune... so, I guess I'll need to wait a bit before doing more...
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:24 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE