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#32
6.2L V8
I agree with all the comments so far but nobody is figuring in resale value of the truck when it comes time to either trade or sell. I currently own a gas pickup and have been running all the numbers a lot lately because I will most likely be purchasing either the new 6.2 gas or 6.7 diesel this spring. The savings on the diesel say 3-500 dollars a year will cover the extra expense of maintenance oil changes, now if the two motors are equal mpg cost wise it comes down to the cost of the motor. The new diesel has an extra $1500 rebate over the gas motor which brings the extra cost of the diesel to about $6000. I figure at trade/sale of the truck down the road you will get at least 3-4000 dollars more for the diesel than for the gas motor which basically puts your ownership of a diesel pretty damn close to a gas motor $2-$3,000. I think it is pretty much personal preference on what you like nowadays with these trucks gas or diesel. Never been a fan of diesel until I heard how quiet the new diesel was and no exhaust smell anymore. I have a tough decision ahead of me in the next few months but I am really excited about it!
#33
I agree with all the comments so far but nobody is figuring in resale value of the truck when it comes time to either trade or sell. I currently own a gas pickup and have been running all the numbers a lot lately because I will most likely be purchasing either the new 6.2 gas or 6.7 diesel this spring. The savings on the diesel say 3-500 dollars a year will cover the extra expense of maintenance oil changes, now if the two motors are equal mpg cost wise it comes down to the cost of the motor. The new diesel has an extra $1500 rebate over the gas motor which brings the extra cost of the diesel to about $6000. I figure at trade/sale of the truck down the road you will get at least 3-4000 dollars more for the diesel than for the gas motor which basically puts your ownership of a diesel pretty damn close to a gas motor $2-$3,000. I think it is pretty much personal preference on what you like nowadays with these trucks gas or diesel. Never been a fan of diesel until I heard how quiet the new diesel was and no exhaust smell anymore. I have a tough decision ahead of me in the next few months but I am really excited about it!
I have towed over 20,000 lbs with this truck, granted it was not across the state, just around town, but I never had a problem with it.
I just bought a 2012 F250 4WD Lariat with the 6.2 Liter engine and it has more power and gets better gas mileage than the 5.4, it could be because it has a 3.73 electric locking rear end and a more efficient engine.
I have talked to people who have been burned by Ford's last 3 diesel engines and think I made the right decision on going with a gas engine again.
I don't maintain my trucks very well and I would not get away with that on a diesel engine.
One thing to look at when considering a diesel engine is how much boost it needs, the higher the boost, the more wear and tear on the engine.
I also read where a guy put diesel in the DEF tank and it blew up his diesel engine and now he has to buy a long block and the repair is over $20,000.
It is a stupid but very costly mistake, seems to me a diesel engine is too sensitive and can't understand how putting diesel in the DEF tank would grenade the engine, but there are a lot of stories of it happening.
I got lucky and found a truck in the state with a gas engine so I didn't have to wait.
BTW by the time I get rid of a truck, I could care less what the trade in is because they are work trucks and have been used everyday for work, so I don't calculate that into my equasion.
My 2000 F250 2wd XLT was $30,000, my 2012 4WD Lariat F250 was $52,000, so my cost per year on the old truck was $2500 per year for the truck, if my new truck only lasts 12 years it will be $4333 per year, but this truck has every option on it except the King Ranch Package, where my last truck was an XLT.
I wouldn't have taken the diesel if it was the exact same cost as the gas engine.
#34
I have a 2005 f-350 with the 5.4 triton engine which I would say is a piece of junk. I told myself I wouldn't buy another ford if they didn't change the motor and thank god they did because I love the look and interior is superior to the competition. I have done the exhaust manifold twice and every truck I drive by with the 5.4 gas seems to have an exhaust leak. I hope the new motors don't have this terrible problem. I am getting about 11-11.5 mpg out of my truck (30% city 70% highway) and was wondering what you are getting with the 3.73 and new motor configuration? If people are going to argue paying more for the diesel than gas you have to calculate in resale value because it counts even if it is 10 years down the road.
#35
With the below calculations the gas is the cheaper engine to operate not the diesel so I'm confused about the years calculated to make up the difference.
If you drive 12,000 miles a year, at 10 mpg, that's 1200 gallons of gas.
Say a diesel got 12 mpg, same 12,000 miles a year, that's 1000 gallons of diesel fuel. (for your type of driving)
1000 gallons of diesel at 4 bucks a gallon = $4000
1200 gallons of gas at 3.15 a gallon = $3780
Net difference = $220 saved with gas, per year.
Diesel option cost is say $7500 bucks (or close to it) = 7500 / 220 = 34 years to pay off.
If you double the mileage per year, to 24,000 miles a year, the time to pay off is cut in half, to only 17 years....
Quadruple the mileage you drive, to 48,000 a year, and the payoff time is reduced to ... 8.5 years...but then the truck will have 400k miles on it.
Clearly, the diesel options is only worth it if you need to pull lots of weight and/or put a lot of miles on your truck. This does not take into account maintenance...
Even if the diesel mileage is 14 mpg, the payoff time for those who drive the average amount (12k miles/year), is still measured in decades...
Sorry for the thread hijack...
Say a diesel got 12 mpg, same 12,000 miles a year, that's 1000 gallons of diesel fuel. (for your type of driving)
1000 gallons of diesel at 4 bucks a gallon = $4000
1200 gallons of gas at 3.15 a gallon = $3780
Net difference = $220 saved with gas, per year.
Diesel option cost is say $7500 bucks (or close to it) = 7500 / 220 = 34 years to pay off.
If you double the mileage per year, to 24,000 miles a year, the time to pay off is cut in half, to only 17 years....
Quadruple the mileage you drive, to 48,000 a year, and the payoff time is reduced to ... 8.5 years...but then the truck will have 400k miles on it.
Clearly, the diesel options is only worth it if you need to pull lots of weight and/or put a lot of miles on your truck. This does not take into account maintenance...
Even if the diesel mileage is 14 mpg, the payoff time for those who drive the average amount (12k miles/year), is still measured in decades...
Sorry for the thread hijack...
#36
He should have use 18 mpg for the diesel not 12. At those calculations over a long time the diesel would be a bit cheaper. But if you need the power then it's worth the money.
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