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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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Upgrade Question ??????

I upgraded my truck to a 3G but it has come to my understanding that I will also need to upgrade the headlight harness as well as the headlights to get the full effect...Upgrade them to what?.....Also how do i post pix?...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Relay harness. Instead of the switch operating the headlights directly, the switch works through a relay.
A lot of people use LMC's harness p/n 47-3660 on page 70 of their catalog.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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Could I find a harness at a upull it junkyard?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fexx22
Could I find a harness at a upull it junkyard?
Highly unlikely. You can build one yourself for fairly cheap using off-the-shelf components.

As a side note, the lighting system is independent of the charging system; I'm not sure who told you that you need to upgrade your headlights to maximize the benefits of a 3G alternator. Headlights are just one of many electrical loads on your truck. The benefit of a 3G alternator is that it can do a better job keeping the electrical system close to 14 volts at idle with multiple loads; the resistance faced by your headlights doesn't have anything to do with this.

I guess you could say that a 3G alternator can make your headlights brighter, and the relay upgrade makes your headlights brighter as well, but the relay upgrade isn't necessary for the 3G alternator to operate at its full potential. The alternator is going to behave the same regardless if the headlight switch contact resistance is in the direct path or not.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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what are the possible side effects of no using the upgraded harness and relays?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jeff14346
what are the possible side effects of no using the upgraded harness and relays?
Nothing. Ford made millions, and millions, and millions of vehicles using the standard headlight setup. The relay upgrade is an improvement.

The complaint with the original setup is that the wiring going from the headlight switch out to the headlights is undersized (higher resistance). The headlight switch placed directly in the path also adds resistance (contact resistance). These resistances in series limit the actual voltage that can appear across the headlight filaments, which lowers the output power, and hence limits the brightness.

The relay upgrade usually uses larger wire (solving problem 1) and then uses relays to switch the headlights directly off the battery. Automotive-grade relays tend to have lower contact resistance than the factory headlight switch. As a result, the voltage across the headlight filaments gets closer to the actual voltage applied to the circuit, with less dropped across the contact resistance and dropped along the wires that go out to the headlights. This yields brighter headlights.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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Ok i understand, the headlight issue was brought up in my readings from other post...but i will look into a harness ....
 
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Nothing. Ford made millions, and millions, and millions of vehicles using the standard headlight setup. The relay upgrade is an improvement.

The complaint with the original setup is that the wiring going from the headlight switch out to the headlights is undersized (higher resistance). The headlight switch placed directly in the path also adds resistance (contact resistance). These resistances in series limit the actual voltage that can appear across the headlight filaments, which lowers the output power, and hence limits the brightness.

The relay upgrade usually uses larger wire (solving problem 1) and then uses relays to switch the headlights directly off the battery. Automotive-grade relays tend to have lower contact resistance than the factory headlight switch. As a result, the voltage across the headlight filaments gets closer to the actual voltage applied to the circuit, with less dropped across the contact resistance and dropped along the wires that go out to the headlights. This yields brighter headlights.
Very well put.
 
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