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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 95f150mudder
I allready have an 8 inch suspension...I was just lookin for a little more clearance for my 40s
I saw that in your post earlier. If you were closer i know where there is a gasser core support , I cant use it as mine is a diesel .

The broken bolt has to come out. Would be unsafe to drive it without being properly secured to the frame.

Are you running stock F 150 axles?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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I saw that in your post earlier. If you were closer i know where there is a gasser core support , I cant use it as mine is a diesel .

The broken bolt has to come out. Would be unsafe to drive it without being properly secured to the frame.

Are you running stock F 150 axles?
Yea but im going to 1 ton swap it in the spring
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Kinda hard to see, but look at the grey truck... the misaligned moulding between the cab and box.

Rough country body lift... bolt sheared in half after some fun in the mud. Puck fell sideways.

Our trucks have too much frame flex for body lifts.

 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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actually just lifting the suspension isnt giving you much more than lifting the body, true lift comes fron taller tires that raise the axles from the ground. suspension or body lift just accomadates the taller tires to prevent body contact with tires, just my opinion
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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actually just lifting the suspension isnt giving you much more than lifting the body, true lift comes fron taller tires that raise the axles from the ground. suspension or body lift just accomadates the taller tires to prevent body contact with tires, just my opinion
No, suspension lift lifts the frame (actual lift), Body lift only moves the body up (all suspension and frame remain at the same heigt). They both allow for larger tires, but if height is what your after Suspension lift is the only way to go. besides seeing the frame hanging down below the body looks funny and even with gap covers, you can still see the bumpers are either moved up or huge filler is installed to atempt to make it look right.

No offense to the body lift guys but body lift the only real lift you get is half the height change in the bigger tires. 31 tires and then 35 inch tires, you only get 2 inches of actual lift.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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Listen to me. I have had over 15 trucks (4 2x4, 11 4x4, not counting the SUV's) and 4 jeeps in my life. All but 1 of the 4x4 (my 04 Toyota truck) were lifted. I ran a CJ7 with 10" suspension and 3" body when I was running 44's, my 92 Ranger had a 6" suspension, 3" body with 36's, my 96 F250 had 8" suspension with 40's, my current truck has 2" suspension, 3" body....etc. I could on and on. I have been 4 wheelin for more than 30 years and have lifted, drove, rolled (rolled my CJ going to fast around a curve, flipped my Ranger end over end forward, flipped my 82 40 Toyota Land Cruiser lifted 8" with 37" backwards down a mountain), pulled out more people 4 wheelin, been pulled out...etc...and never once have I seen a body lift fail. They are a great way to supplement a suspension lift where you cannot get any more out of your suspension, combine to get the desired lift or to lift a newer truck in able to put on a little bit bigger tire without sacrifice to factory suspension, ride and warranty. I just cant understand people that would want to bash any kind of lift if done correctly and safely. If you do not like a body lift, so be it. But what if I said that all people that drive automatics are wuss's because I have always had manuals? To each his own.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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not trying to beat a dead horse but just lifting the frame still doesnt add any ground clearance, which is the only reason i see for lifting. again just my opinion
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fdude64
actually just lifting the suspension isnt giving you much more than lifting the body, true lift comes fron taller tires that raise the axles from the ground. suspension or body lift just accomadates the taller tires to prevent body contact with tires, just my opinion
I think what you meant to say is that bigger tires are the only way to get more ground clearance which is especially true for the diffs.

IMHO running a half ton with 8" of suspension plus 2"-3" ??? (you never said how much body lift you were after) body lift with stock axles and 40" tires is a recipe for disaster. The geometry of the truck has been changed so much that if you ever have to slam on the brakes going down the highway several components will have many times more force on them than they can withstand.

I can't imagine that summer will be any harder on your axles than winter will be, if you think you'll need real axles for summer mudding why would you expect the stockers to hold up through winter? Where do you live?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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exactly the only true lift is to obtain more ground clearance. you can have all the suspension lift or body lift you want but if the axles arent any higher you cant go through any deeper mud or over higher obsticals. i too have been off roading for about 30 yrs and have seen a couple inferior suspension and body lifts fail.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by brcrk
Listen to me. I have had over 15 trucks (4 2x4, 11 4x4, not counting the SUV's) and 4 jeeps in my life. All but 1 of the 4x4 (my 04 Toyota truck) were lifted. I ran a CJ7 with 10" suspension and 3" body when I was running 44's, my 92 Ranger had a 6" suspension, 3" body with 36's, my 96 F250 had 8" suspension with 40's, my current truck has 2" suspension, 3" body....etc. I could on and on. I have been 4 wheelin for more than 30 years and have lifted, drove, rolled (rolled my CJ going to fast around a curve, flipped my Ranger end over end forward, flipped my 82 40 Toyota Land Cruiser lifted 8" with 37" backwards down a mountain), pulled out more people 4 wheelin, been pulled out...etc...and never once have I seen a body lift fail. They are a great way to supplement a suspension lift where you cannot get any more out of your suspension, combine to get the desired lift or to lift a newer truck in able to put on a little bit bigger tire without sacrifice to factory suspension, ride and warranty. I just cant understand people that would want to bash any kind of lift if done correctly and safely. If you do not like a body lift, so be it. But what if I said that all people that drive automatics are wuss's because I have always had manuals? To each his own.
Well said. Finally somebody that doesn't tear us apart for having body lifts. Nice truck by the way.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:40 PM
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i agree that the 40s on that much lift on a half ton truck is asking for trouble
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by minnesotafisherman
Well said. Finally somebody that doesn't tear us apart for having body lifts. Nice truck by the way.
Thank You

Tim
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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Ever drag theframe in the mud and get hung up? Your diffs dont move up or down, but everything else that hangs up like the frame move up when you use suspension lift.

When I bought my 80 toyota someone had put a 2 inch add a leaf adn 2 inch body lift. I drug the frame over a ridge, After i sent 4 inches of suspension lift adn removed teh body lift I could clear it pretty easily.

I have been into wheeling all my life. Owned many trucks. i see the point of both allowing for larger tires and neither moving the axles. But the axles arent what usually hangs me up whem I am used the wheel in the mud, It was the frame draggin thru that always stopped me.

Suspensio lift lifts everything except the axles up. Body lift does not.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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i agree with brcrk. nothing wrong with a body lift as long as it is within reason and done properly. i have used both suspension and body lifts and even combined the two, just depends upon the circumstances for the needed lift.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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6in suspension, 3in body. I wheel this think hard, even on stock 10.25 rear and D50 front with 38.5x15x16.5s. Ive had ZERO problems with sheared bolts or broken pucks.



I missed where he said he drives this on the street

But i do agree with a half ton, 40s are going to kill that little D44 if you wheel it hard. An axle swap and gear change will do wonders though. with upgraded break pads, rotors, drive shafts,etc
 
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