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1951 F1 Front Leaf Spring Question

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Old 11-06-2011, 05:48 PM
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1951 F1 Front Leaf Spring Question

Took my front end out from under the truck today and removed the 4 U Bolts that hold the leaf springs to the straight axle so I could install my new posie super slide lowering springs. When the leaf springs fell off the axle I noticed 2 little wedges that were under the spring on top of the axle. I didnt get a chance to see but do the thick part of the wedges go towards the front or back of the leaf springs?

I have never seen these on the front before, I know in the rears the wedge normally goes to the front to give you some pinion angle but not sure about the wedges on the front.

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Old 11-06-2011, 06:26 PM
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The thick part goes in the back. The stock ones are 2 degree. Most people replace these with 4-5 degree ones. Sure makes the truck go down the road straighter.
 
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I'm glad you asked about this, it reminds that I need to order some of those wedges and get them installed.

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Bobby, you and me both! Don, where is the best place to get the 4-5 degree wedges? Thanks for your replies, I had no idea these were that important!
 
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Hello, I did not have any shims when I replaced my front suspension. What would the symptoms be if I needed them? How does the steering change with no shim, 2 degrees or 4-5 degrees? Is there a way to measure what I need i.e. castor angle? Thanks, Steve
 
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My ttruck didn't have any caster wedges in it that I know of, but I've lowered the front end of the truck which essentially changes the caster angle so I figure that I should add a few degrees to bring it back to normal

I think I've seen them in the Speedway Motors catalog

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If you don't have enough caster angle, the truck will want to wander around when going down the road. Mine would start to wander about 45-50 MPH with the stock shims. I put in 4 degree and now it starts to wander about 75 MPH.
Several people have told me that I should have put in 5 degree. It will make it a little harder to turn, but it will want to go straight.
I don't remember where I bought mine, but I think it was Mid Fifty. I would think classic haulers would have them.
 
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Just ordered some 4 degree from classic haulers, about $35 all said and done. I am glad you guys responded, my original ones were shot and I almost put it back together without any shims at all!
 
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Hello, I just installed the new U-bolts...without any shims. If I get shims, can I reuse the same U-bolts or will I have to get new ones? Thanks, Steve
 
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Your U bolts will work just fine. You need the shims!
 
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Thank you so much!

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I would suggest a trip to an alignment shop for all the vehicles we work on, stock auapension or otherwise, before we get to serious about doing more that a few "Test" drives (Even Trailer Queens). There are all sorts of things that need to be checked
Tow-in
Tow-out
Camber
Castor
Akerman angle
Whips
Chips
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Dips
Be safe out there
 
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Originally Posted by 1951flatheaddave
Just ordered some 4 degree from classic haulers, about $35 all said and done. I am glad you guys responded, my original ones were shot and I almost put it back together without any shims at all!
Got a part number? I'm thinking about ordering a set for my 52. Don't remember if it has the stock shims or any at all.
 
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This was from classic haulers.
2 x ($9.90) Spring Alignment Shim 4 Degree $19.80
1 x ($0.00) 4852 Catalog $0.00

Payment By: PAYPAL
Subtotal: $19.80
Tax: $0.00
Shipping and Handling: $13.00
Core Charges: $0.00
Credits/Discounts: $0.00
Total Amount: $32.80

I also called a local place and they can measure all of the angles for me for $50.

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Check with NAPA - Remember to ask for the proper width - Also check your locak Spring/Alignment shops
 
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