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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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coolant question

If i understand correctly using ELC in a e-99 isnt a good thing to do....If this is so, I use Rotella ELC in my 03, we are starting a build with a e-99 motor for the 03.. Can i still use the Rotella ELC????? I will be using all the external parts off the 03 motor...
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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I believe the sealant on the injector cups on the e-99 is not compatible with the elc
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:30 AM
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i am replacing the injector cups in this build, so ELC will be okay??? or is there other reasons i need to know about???
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by joeyd61
i am replacing the injector cups in this build, so ELC will be okay??? or is there other reasons i need to know about???
IDK for sure but the sealant deal is what stuck in my head, someone will be along smarter than me
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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i am replacing the injector cups in this build, so ELC will be okay??? or is there other reasons i need to know about???
I would double check to make sure the sealant on the cups is ELC compliant. Other than that I think you would be fine to run it.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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ELC will be fine if the E99 motor gets all new seals and gaskets.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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thanks everyone....ELC it is then
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 04:07 PM
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I would double check to make sure the sealant on the cups is ELC compliant. Other than that I think you would be fine to run it.
Just to clarify:

You have to worry about any E99 seal, gasket, o-ring or retaining compound that will come in contact with the ELC.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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Just to clarify:

You have to worry about any E99 seal, gasket, o-ring or retaining compound that will come in contact with the ELC.
Learn something new every day...thanks!
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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Learn something new every day...thanks!
Gooch's Coolant Flush Procedure and In-Depth Coolant Information - FTE

Here's the post from that thread regarding ELC in Early '99's.

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The following information from Gooch pertains to why ELC's are not recommended for use in early '99 7.3L PSD's.
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Mostly it's the injector cups. International, who made the engine, found some compatibility issues with the older injector cup material, sensors, front cover, seals, gaskets, o-rings, and probably some other stuff when using coolants that contained organic acid technology (OAT). Coolants like ELC's (usually Red) and G-05 (usually Gold) will have these OAT's. Conventional coolants (usually Green) will not.

So International revised those components on all 2/2/99-up build engines (SN 940614-up), and began recommending and factory filling with HD ELC coolants mid-year 2000. Never looked back.

You could use HD ELC's in the older engines, but you run the risk of having to replace the cups and maybe some other stuff. I always try to recommend conventional coolant meeting ASTM D4985 with SCA or a pre-charged conventional coolant meeting ASTM D6210 for those. But it's your call, and some owners use the ELC in their older engine successfully. For the 2/2/99-up builds I would highly recommend upgrading to HD ELC.

BTW, if you need to check the build date of your engine, you can find it on the valve-cover tag (driver's side), or stamped on a machined surface on the underside of the engine, behind the oil filter and just ahead of the bell-housing cover. You may need to wire brush/clean it to read it.
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thanks everyone...this will be a complete overhaul so i should be good....
 
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