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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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ok i got a 302 for free out of a 86 f-150 and put a carb manifold on it i tryed to set timing yesterday and it hits the radiator i need alittle more advance so i tryed picking it up and moving it back well when i tryed to do that it was hitting the manifold bolt so my question is what should i do , is the manifold i got off a stock 302 bad ,is it the 1973 ford distributor thats the problem ,or could the fact that it only has exhaust manifold on cause it to not be a accurate timing thank you ahead of time
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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I don't understand what's hitting the radiator, what you tried to pick up and move back and what's hitting a manifold bolt?

The older manifold and distributor should bolt right on/in the newer engine.

I have a 302, its an 83 Grand Marquis block with my 77 intake on and 77 distributor in with no problems.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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the distributor hits the thermostat housing and the manifold bolt ,it hits the housing and i still need to advance the timing more,with it all the way against the housing it still back fires and shoot up smoke out of the carburator
 
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Ok I had a similar issue with my distributor hitting my A/C bracket.

You should be able to pull the cap off the distributor and make a mark on the distributor body inline with where the rotor is pointing. Then raise the distributor body up just enough so that you can move the rotor back one tooth on the cam, then just rotate the body of the distributor back so that the mark lines up with the rotor again. Put the cap back on and you will have more room to adjust it.

Before you do any of that though make sure you have the distributor installed correctly to start with and 180 degrees out.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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Also, make sure you have the wires in the correct firing order.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 09:50 PM
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what do you mean by a 180 degrees out?
 
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 12:10 AM
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By 180 out he means the engine is tdc on the exhaust stroke and not the power stoke. I had the same problem when I had to pull the dizzy to change the gear.

The best way to make sure you are on the correct stroke it to remove your valve cover and watch the valves. On the exhaust stroke the intake valve will start to open as soon as the piston starts traveling down. On the power stroke both valves will remain closed on the down stroke and the exhaust valve will open on the up stroke.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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i took the valve cover off when looking at piston one from the passenger side which valve is exhaust?
 
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which valve is exhaust?
The exhaust is the smaller of the two.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 03:01 PM
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I'd just pull the spark plug and put your finger over the hole and start rotating the engine with a socket and breaker bar on the crank. You'll definitely feel the air start blowing on your finger when it's on the compression stroke. As you rotate the engine to bring the piston up to TDC look down at the balancer so you can see on there when you reach TDC according to it, shine a flashlight in to the spark plug hole and you will see the top of the piston just to verify. After that look at your rotor position it should be pointing at the terminal on the cap for the #1 wire. If it's not then adjust the distributor so that it is.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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well in the process of timing my carb had a gas leak and and it back fired and caught my engine on fire
 
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