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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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what is star pattern on piston? pics

what dose star pattern on piston mean? the 02 motor i have had water in the oil pan and in the cylinders so i broke it down to clean it up to store away. all of the pistons have the same star pattern on them. David Bulla thinks it is for the timing advanced is this so. if so it is strange because the truck was a county truck, and that dont put chips on them? can this happen on stock programing? how long dose it have to be run to get the pattern?





 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 07:40 PM
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Injector spray pattern. usually more pronounced after a engine has had a chip or programmer!
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 07:42 PM
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I think it can come from driving them hard before reaching normal operating temp, likely with a county rig I would imagine.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Totally normally and seen on both stock and tuned engines regardless of tuner.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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I think it can come from driving them hard before reaching normal operating temp, likely with a county rig I would imagine.
Sounds reasonable. I know the timing is advanced until the oil gets up to a certain temp...even on stock tuning.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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Djanzen had it right, it is injector spray pattern as it is injected and burnt.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by truckeemtnfords
Djanzen had it right, it is injector spray pattern as it is injected and burnt.
but should it not be in the cup?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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ok if it can happen on stock trucks. nothing looks bad in the motor so i guess it did not hurt anything.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by snakedoc
but should it not be in the cup?

It should be yes, in a perfect well maintained nothing every going wrong world. 3 motors I have had apart all had a star to some extent 2 of them were not very far outreaching. My last motor the star pattern was nearly reaching the cylinder walls, that is a little more aggressive issue with timing problems from what I have heard/read/seen.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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I knew it was timing related but didn't realize the stock tuning when cold was advancing the timing so much. Must be part of the reason Jody holds back the tunes till closer to operating temp.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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Diesel Combustion - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnZmt...layer_embedded

This is a cool videos that illustrates that star pattern is normal part of the combustion process.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:35 PM
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That must be one bad a camera!lol
Thanks for this!
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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Good to know. Just another reason to take it easy until it's up to temp!
 
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 10:49 PM
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i like the videos.
make that a bad boy camera!
 
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 01:09 AM
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Looks like a good motor with know problems. Good find. Chet
 
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