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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Wiring Garage Outlets

I been working on it today. I took pictures and a diagram. Something isnt right.

I am only getting power to one of the 6 outlets I ran. I ran the plugs in a series. I tapped into constant power from an existing outlet and ran it into a junction box.

I tapped into the black 3 wire wire. The wire going out the back is going down to the plug to give the constant power.



Down at the flip switch, I have one ground/black/white and then the same wire going up into the ceiling to the first outlet, its getting power to just one of the double outlets and that is it.


The one with a plug in it is getting power but the other isnt.


This is where its going down to the switch


This is one of the outlets


This is the first outlet in the series


The middle one in the series


The last one


We had it wired to the switch but only got power to one of the double outlets, the first one in the series. When id hit the switch to turn the light off it was kicking the breaker.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 06:22 PM
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Not sure I follow you about 'in series'.
Are you connecting black to white, to black to white, or black to black and white to white ??????

First things first.
I need to stress that if you don't know what you are doing in an electrical circuit - STOP all work, and call a QUALIFIED electrician!!

The outlets should not be in series. (To me, connected in series is negative to positive, positive to negative, etc., etc., etc.)
Connect all of the black wires together.
Connect all of the white wires together.
Also, for a 'standard' SPST (wall) switch, the BLACK (Hot) wire connects to one side of the switch, and the outgoing BLACK wire (to the outlet or light fixture) is on the other connector.
The WHITE wires are connected together with a wire nut behind the switch.
The bare or ground wire connects to the switch and also continues through the 'run'.

NEVER connect black to white on a 'standard' 2 wire w/ground.
Also, use the correct sized wire nuts on each wire!

In your outlet boxes you should have 'wires in' connected to 'wires out' twisted together and have a 'pigtail' going from each wirenut, to the outlet in that box.
OR, you could have black wires connected to the GOLD connectors on the back of the outlet, and the white wires connected to the SILVER connectors on the back of the outlet.
NEVER use the 'strip and push in' connectors on the back of the outlet. To me, that is not very secure. (I've also seen wires connected this way come out and cause short circuits.

Again, I must stress - if you don't know what you are doing in an electrical circuit - STOP all work, and call an electrician!!


ETA: From the way it looks, you don't have enough of the sheath (outer insulator) cut back. You should have approximately four to six inches (4-6") of the individual conductors (black and white wires) to work with.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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Well not really into a series, we have the black into the black and white in the white. I just dont understand why its not working. Its pretty basic wiring. Tap into constant power run it into a junction box run another wire down the wall to a switch and one back up to the lights.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rmalottwtes30
Well not really into a series, we have the black into the black and white in the white. I just dont understand why its not working. Its pretty basic wiring. Tap into constant power run it into a junction box run another wire down the wall to a switch and one back up to the lights.
Get a book on basic wiring from Lowe's or Home Depot, first.

It sounds as though you are going to have all outlets and light controlled by the switch.

I stress again. . . . if you don't know exactly what you are doing in an electrical circuit, contact a qualified electrician.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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I have one existing outlet in the garage that is hot all the time. I want to add 3 outlets to run some 4 foot lights. I have all the outlet boxes installed. I want the existing outlet to stay hot like it is now to run the garage door opener, I want the 3 new outlets to stay on a switch to turn the lights on and off. Whats the proper way to wire it? I get the idea on how to do it but I dont think I have something wired right.

I am wanting to get the power for the new outlets from the existing outlet.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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You need to run from the breaker box to do this correctly, tapping into a existing outlet is not the best way.............Call a electrician.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rmalottwtes30
I have one existing outlet in the garage that is hot all the time. I want to add 3 outlets to run some 4 foot lights. I have all the outlet boxes installed. I want the existing outlet to stay hot like it is now to run the garage door opener, I want the 3 new outlets to stay on a switch to turn the lights on and off. Whats the proper way to wire it? I get the idea on how to do it but I dont think I have something wired right.

I am wanting to get the power for the new outlets from the existing outlet.
As Dave said, I would prefer to start a run from the circuit breaker/fuse box, but, you've already started.
(Note: You should calculate how many amps that circuit is drawing!)

When you come out of the first (existing) outlet, run wire to switch.
Connect (as I tried to state earlier) white to white and use wirenuts. The white wire is the "Common" or 'Neutral'.
Connect incoming black (hot) wire to the switch.
Connect the outgoing black (hot) wire to the other post on the switch.
Connect ground to ground and run a ground wire to the bottom 'post' (Ground post) on switch.

From there, the outgoing black and white wires connect to next outlet box and to that box's outgoing wires.
I always run a small 'pigtail' from the connected black wires to the 'hot side' of the outlet and a 'pigtail' from the connected white wires in each box.
(This makes it easier to replace an outlet that may/can go bad.)
To clarify, in each box, you should have three of each color connected with a wire nut.
Black in. Black out. Black pigtail to outlet.
White in. White out. White pigtail to outlet.
Bare wires twisted together with a pigtail to outlet.

Note: The white (common/neutral) wires should only be connected to each other and the SILVER connectors on the outlets.
The black (hot) wires connect to each other, to the GOLD (Brass) connector on the outlets, and to the switch. In this way, the 'hot' side of the outlets are removed/disconnected from the 'bus' in the circuit breaker/fuse box.


ETA: I must stress. . . for safety's sake (and your family's safety), If you don't know what you are doing, it's best for all, for you to contact a qualified, licensed electrician.
I've seen houses that have caught fire due to improper wiring.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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OK, so you have power at the original box.

You have power to the switch.

At the switch, white runs through, as does the ground as per a prior post. The black wire is switched.

At that point, if you are going to do 6 outlets, you either need to feed the switched power into a JB, then run 6 wire pairs out of it, or you need to wire the first outlet, then tap off it and go to the next one, and continue till you are done.

You say there is power at the first outlet. I take it the switch controls that power correctly? Are you tapping that one for the next outlet?

I can't really understand from the pics etc.

Also, the wire should be secured and not just hanging.

As per prior posts, beware if you are uncertain, and call an electrician if you can't figure it out after a fresh look.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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I have seen too many melted wires and smoked outlets that could have become full blown fires from just what you are attempting.............Please, go back to the breaker box, mount a new a breaker of appropriate amps, and run from there.
115v-AC may seem mundane, but causes more fires and death than you would care to know.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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On a dual outlet, there is usually a removable metal bridge between each plug. It is there so that you can wire a separate circuit to each individual plug. If one plug has power and the other one doesn't, then that bridge has been removed.

Put up a good picture of the wiring on the first outlet that only has one plug with power.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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Is that a 3-way switch? It sure looks like it...
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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so the white wire coming down to the switch dont hook up?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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I dont have the white wire connected to the switch, just the black. I have the switch working. I am getting power to it. I flip the switch and get power on the other side. I am still not able to get the outlets to work.

I have them piggy backed into each other. Should I run a wire from each into a junction box or keep it the way I have it with one wired into the other and into the other?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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So the first outlet in your illustration works when you switch it on via that switch?
 
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