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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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So I was at the shop this morning getting the truck diagnosed because I have had some sputtering issues while driving, mainly accelerating. Found out #4 injector is dead, #6 is overfueling, #8 is overfueling while cold but seems to level out once it is warmed up and they think my FICM is starting to go out. My question is this,do I go with the stock injectors or would an aftermarket set be smart? At this point im already gonna be in $4,000 so? Im probably gonna replace all 8 injectors because it will be cheaper in the long run of one does go out again its just another 400+ dollars to replace it. Fuel pump will be tested after injectors are in and could possibly need replaced also if it doesnt test correctly. Thoughts? Opinions would be appreciated for this bull**** expense on an excursion that has 59k on it btw its an 05.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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First who is doing diagnostics,if they are using auto enginuity program let them show you what the truck is doing on the computer for instance balance test for injectors,ficm values, battery voltage and any codes the truck is throwing. Second if ficm is bad or going bad that would be my first place to start. Make sure filters are maintained with oem filters. Dont hesitate to get second opinion.You have come to the right place there are great diesel pros her who will chime later and give their professional advice. Stay positive and spend your money wisely.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 02:19 PM
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I dont see 4000$ in work there.

You can get 8 re mans off ebay for about 1250 and an ficm repair for about 250-300
do the work yourself its about $1500
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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Thought about that route but first off I'm not a mechanic...wouldn't have the slightest idea on where to begin on replacing them. Trust me if I could do it myself I would. I looked at the diagnostics, they showed me everything...should have taken a picture of the #4 it was pretty comical. I am getting a 2nd opinion just to eliminate any worries later today. I just want to do anything I can that will help with spending this kind of money...thanks for the comments and if anyone knows of any shops in Oklahoma that im not aware of please send them my way. 2006powerstroke....I wish I had the knowledge to install the injectors but unfortunately with work and my brain on engines its not gonna happen but I can see someone that would know how to do it hesitating the $4,000.....trrust me I wish I were spending $1500 and turning a wrench
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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Just a cuple of observations. I agree with iduger, If FICM is suspect, I would address that first and re- test. Also the injectors you mentioned are all even #'s, I would check wiring harness and high pressure oil on that side (stand pipes, dummy plugs etc) before replacing injectors. The shop may be right but it seems like they're doing the full Monty when there's room for a few quick checks along the way. 4 grand sounds a little steep also but that may have to do with your local area. Also, a new FICM is much more expensive than a repair, that may also be part of the repair plan.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Being that you're not mechanically inclined, it might be worth towing it off for a second opinion. $4+ is an awful lot for that!
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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Being that you're not mechanically inclined, it might be worth towing it off for a second opinion. $4+ is an awful lot for that!
I agree!!!!
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 06:42 PM
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also all effected injectors are on the same bank. 3 of the for on that bank having issue replace the 4 not all 8 if they need to be replaced
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cheezit
also all effected injectors are on the same bank. 3 of the for on that bank having issue replace the 4 not all 8 if they need to be replaced
LOL--would you hazzard a failure diagnosis, oh wise one? A text would be sufficient.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 08:37 PM
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LOL--would you hazzard a failure diagnosis, oh wise one? A text would be sufficient.
O mock me if you will
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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O mock me if you will
Being that you're not mechanically inclined, it might be worth towing it off for a second opinion. $4+ is an awful lot for that!
I agree with u I do...not spending any money yet...that was the first look I got at the truck...that's why I'm asking for any advice or suggestions. I know everyone has a brother in law or a friend or whatever that can get things cheaper and can do their own repairs but unfortunately I'm not that guy. Sorry if installing injectors and the FICM is just too simplistic for this thread but I'm not a mechanical wiz nor do I pretend to be. If the price is high the price is high...that's what I need to know but mainly my concern is what is actually broken and what needs fixed bottom line not how much money can I throw at this thing. I mean from what I have read about these problems let me ask u guys this: I have 5 tv's...2 amps...two subs...and all 6 hi's....my battery light has been coming on and off at different times in the last month. If in fact those batteries are somehow draining power or power is getting low on them could or would that affect the FICM and keeping it at 46-48v?? I mean if it's not reading the correct voltage but my batteries are low while it's running could that happen where its gonna read low? And wouldn't the FICM be a direct result of the injector issues??? Thoughts?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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the mock comment was direct at Tim sorry if thast weas taken wrong...
yes battery voltage plays a big factor in the ficm abaility to perform as a dc/dc converter.
that may have already killed the ficm. without a truck in front of me its hard to give the best advise possible.
reapirs should be done in this order. fix your voltage concer. reevaluate the fiicm. repair or replace as needed then move on to the injectors. if you have 3 injectors on on bank bad (4,6,8) replace the 4 on that bank and review as needed from there
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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Im not the most mech inclined but have learned a lot on this forum.I have been forced to work on my truck because of finances. These guys on here are very helpful in two ways 1st this is their expertise, 2nd they have put together a tech folder that explains the ford manual. Life is about living and learning and the more one learns about the 6.0 the easier life is. I am having the same exact issue and probably will have to change an an injector but will eliminate all other possible factors that could be affecting this issue. Sarcasm is part of the equation sometimes and makes this process more interesting. Let us know where your from and someone might be closer than you think after all were all brothers in this quest for the perfect 6.0
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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reapirs should be done in this order. there
no worries man...just trying to get the best gameplan to go about getting the correct repairs without spending a fortune for things I don't need...
 
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 11:23 PM
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no worries man...just trying to get the best gameplan to go about getting the correct repairs without spending a fortune for things I don't need...
. Iduger I live in okc...and I'm all about sarcasm! there are many forums to go to but when its this technical I think the guys on here are the best so that's why I posted up . I'm learning as I go also and it makes it more interesting to know what mechanics tell u and being able to relate it to issues u have read about from this forumn. I appreciate any information and if anyone is close please shoot me your number! I promise there will be a case of beer or a trip to the titty bar after the work is done
 
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