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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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I will be ordering a 2012 F150 with the HD payload package probably as soon as the "build your own" comes online.
Question for you guys: Is there any way to find out the final (real) payload based on the options chosen? It would be nice to know before placing the order. The dealer is clueless.

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Old Sep 17, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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Not that I have heard of. You could look at the payload stickers on other similar trucks at the lot and get close.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 06:10 AM
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Since your ordering it, I'll wager that you won't have definite numbers till your VIN has been assigned. The HD package will be available on the Screw for 2012.

A HD payload package gets you an 8200 LB GVWR. Subtract the weight of the truck and viola!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Thanks to both of you!
Yeah, my problem is that with some of the options, I could possibly decide against them if they eat too much of the payload.
Well, maybe it's not all that important. I contacted Ford, I'll let you know what they say!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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If your worried about payload just install airbags.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 07:30 PM
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A couple of quick notes.....

You can build and price a 2012 here:

Chrome Carbook

Just choose "Make and Model" from the drop down menu on the left side of the page. After that, it will have a series of drop down menus on the page where you can choose the year, make, model, etc.

Also, if you can find a dealer that has a 2012 F-150 Sourcebook, it details the weight of each option and package on the F-150. So theoretically, you should be able to use it and get a pretty accurate estimate of the weight of the configuration you'll be ordering. I had a copy of the 2010 Sourcebook at one time and it had all of this information in it.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstroke72
A couple of quick notes.....

You can build and price a 2012 here:

Chrome Carbook

Just choose "Make and Model" from the drop down menu on the left side of the page. After that, it will have a series of drop down menus on the page where you can choose the year, make, model, etc.

Also, if you can find a dealer that has a 2012 F-150 Sourcebook, it details the weight of each option and package on the F-150. So theoretically, you should be able to use it and get a pretty accurate estimate of the weight of the configuration you'll be ordering. I had a copy of the 2010 Sourcebook at one time and it had all of this information in it.
Wow, awesome, thanks a lot! Another link to play around with. And thanks for that sourcebook information --- before ordering, I'll look into that.
For now, I found a pretty accurate way to get the number, I think: went to a couple dealers today, and found a 2011 EB 157" with pretty much the same options I plan on ordering. The sticker inside said 1,460 lbs. On the payload package configurator, Ford says 1,620 lbs for that truck. So I figure the options I want weight in at about (1,620 - 1,460) = 170lbs. Close enough.
More than being worried I just kind of wanted to know.
Thanks everybody!

Snowman: air bags may help with sag and handling, but won't really increase payload, I think.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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You bet.

Another thing you may have already considered is that the Heavy-Duty Payload package is available with the 157" SCrew this year as is the Max Trailer Tow package and you can get them in combination. So, you'll have a bump up in GVWR with the HD Payload package, if you order it that way.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Yep, looked into that as well. And by now I've spent a couple hours on that Chrome Carbook website. It's just awesome, I am getting closer and closer to my final wishlist!
Two things I noticed that they may need to adjust, or I am missing something:
1) I was even able to see the weight of the options selected (98 lbs), but as a result, it showed me a remaining payload of 2,437 lbs. That seems high, considering that I have seen a max payload of 2,340 lbs listed for the screw 4x4 EB version.
2) it shows me a 26 gallon tank. I thought the EB 4x4 will get the 36 gallon tank standard? I hope so.

Great site though to play around with! Spent a couple hours (and beers, LOL) already over there. Appreciate the help!
 
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Old Sep 18, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by flixden

Snowman: air bags may help with sag and handling, but won't really increase payload, I think.
That is correct. There is no modification that will increase your payload unless it also reduces the weight of the vehicle. Rockwell axles, 1 ton leafs, E rated tires, and airbags will all reduce "legal" payload despite the fact that they are stronger than the parts they replace.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by flixden
Yep, looked into that as well. And by now I've spent a couple hours on that Chrome Carbook website. It's just awesome, I am getting closer and closer to my final wishlist!
Two things I noticed that they may need to adjust, or I am missing something:
1) I was even able to see the weight of the options selected (98 lbs), but as a result, it showed me a remaining payload of 2,437 lbs. That seems high, considering that I have seen a max payload of 2,340 lbs listed for the screw 4x4 EB version.
2) it shows me a 26 gallon tank. I thought the EB 4x4 will get the 36 gallon tank standard? I hope so.

Great site though to play around with! Spent a couple hours (and beers, LOL) already over there. Appreciate the help!

Glad the Chrome site is working well for you. I've found it to be a very good resource over the years. It's generally very accurate and is constantly updated. I have noticed a couple of items on the 2012 F-150 section to be a little inaccurate but as has been their practice for the many years I've used it, they'll be updated and corrected shortly.

On the subject of the payload, if I recall correctly, the GVWR for the Max Tow trucks is 7650 or 7700 pounds. If you order it with the HD Payload package, the GVWR increases to 8200 pounds, IIRC. That would be a difference of 500-550 pounds above the GVWR of the SCrew with only the Max Tow package which seems about right. If you selected the 157" SCrew with the HD Package to "build and price", it should be fairly close.

I also just checked the order guide. The 36 gallon fuel tank is standard with the EcoBoost in the 4WD trucks and the 26 gallon tank is standard with the EcoBoost 2WD trucks.

ON EDIT: I just found a link to the 2012 F-150 Sourcebook. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have the option weights listed (unless I overlooked it). But it does have a wealth of information in it. Below are the 28 page and 80 page links. The 28 page appears to just be a copy of the order guide but the 80 page is the full Sourcebook.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...ZDVjMjFl&hl=en

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...mZWVh&hl=en_US
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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If your that worried about overloading the "legal" payload of a half ton truck your buying the wrong truck! Super Duty would be a better choice.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 11:07 PM
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https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...d_Workbook.pdf

This is for the 2011 ford truck options but it should be close enough.

I built a spreadsheet for various F150 options on Supercab and SuperCrew trucks which calculates front / rear as-built loads, axle reserve, payload, etc. as well as expected axle loads with bumper hitch, external receiver hitch and LD hitch including front seat/rear seat/box load to see which combinations would be overloaded for what I intended to do.

As expected for a half ton without the HD payload package it's pretty easy to overload the axles even at half the max trailer towing if you're carrying a lot of people and stuff at the same time.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2011 | 11:29 PM
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Thanks everybody!
I think the F150 HD will be just fine, I'll have a ~ 500 lbs headroom in terms of payload. I guess I was interested in the final number more than worried as long as that margin is not eaten by the options, and it looks like it won't be (not even nearly).
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstroke72
A couple of quick notes.....

You can build and price a 2012 here:

Chrome Carbook

Just choose "Make and Model" from the drop down menu on the left side of the page. After that, it will have a series of drop down menus on the page where you can choose the year, make, model, etc.

Also, if you can find a dealer that has a 2012 F-150 Sourcebook, it details the weight of each option and package on the F-150. So theoretically, you should be able to use it and get a pretty accurate estimate of the weight of the configuration you'll be ordering. I had a copy of the 2010 Sourcebook at one time and it had all of this information in it.
Just went to Chrome Carbook, and the 2012 F-150 is gone from the list.
 
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