The "Ford Death Tick"
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It is pretty rough..
I ordered that kit from
Advance. No one had it locally. The dang thing cost as much to ship as the price of the bolt was!
Going to a nice exhaust system would be classified as a "major modification" to the parents which is a no no until i get it paid off. Now if this doesnt fix it or the manifolds are cracked then that may be another story. So after the bolts come in we will see
I ordered that kit from
Advance. No one had it locally. The dang thing cost as much to ship as the price of the bolt was!
Going to a nice exhaust system would be classified as a "major modification" to the parents which is a no no until i get it paid off. Now if this doesnt fix it or the manifolds are cracked then that may be another story. So after the bolts come in we will see
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From: Wasilla Alaska
pace setter shorty's. $200 new. bolt right in. no mods to exhaust and 50 state legal.
got em on mine. noticeable power increase and tight as a drum. and i beat the crap out of that thing. only drive it off road and hauling.
my $.02
got em on mine. noticeable power increase and tight as a drum. and i beat the crap out of that thing. only drive it off road and hauling.
my $.02
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I was forced to pick up a set of four of those bolts yesterday at the stealership...$57 for the four of them!
I really had no other choice, because nobody had any in stock and i needed them right away...I had to have the truck on the road and ready for today.
I really had no other choice, because nobody had any in stock and i needed them right away...I had to have the truck on the road and ready for today.
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I dont want shorties. I plan on hooker competition headers later on down the road.
Someone told me you have to loosen the motor mounts to put on headers? Is that true? What all do you have to take off/loosen for headers?
I ordered the bolts. Hopefully theyll be here soon because its my daily driver
Someone told me you have to loosen the motor mounts to put on headers? Is that true? What all do you have to take off/loosen for headers?
I ordered the bolts. Hopefully theyll be here soon because its my daily driver
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I dont want shorties. I plan on hooker competition headers later on down the road.
Someone told me you have to loosen the motor mounts to put on headers? Is that true? What all do you have to take off/loosen for headers?
I ordered the bolts. Hopefully theyll be here soon because its my daily driver
Someone told me you have to loosen the motor mounts to put on headers? Is that true? What all do you have to take off/loosen for headers?
I ordered the bolts. Hopefully theyll be here soon because its my daily driver
FYI, I just bought an '89 F350 yesterday and guess what? It has a small exhaust leak that's ticking. Check engine light was on, pulled the code, came up as #41 "Oxygen Sensor Fault, always reads lean." It's pulling in fresh air.
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You dont have to do anything to put shortys on. My longtubes fit just fine too. But thats not always the case. Your parents say no major mods but its the best thing to do to fix your issue. If your leaf springs rust out are they going to say you cant fix it because its major?
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No if its a need then its okay. Thats why i said if the manifolds become cracked then im going with headers. Yes its in awful shape but if the bolts fix my problem then itll be okay. Its kind one of them dont fix it if it aint broke kinda things.
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Personally i call it "preventitive maintanence" but hey im just a 17 yr old that knows it all lol. Moneys a bit of an issue at the moment anyway. Im trying to get some body work done and i found a set of tires i need to see about picking up this week
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Off subject of the original but thanks, please dont block me from this forum.
My '90 with the 302 had cracked manifolds.. The driver's side manifold came off in two pieces because the crack was all the way around it, the passenger's side manifold came off in three pieces due to two cracks all the way around. I put headers on mine.
My friend back home who has 400,000 miles on his '90 with the 302 has replaced his manifolds with new Ford units three times, they all cracked. He found some cheap knock off chinese ones that a junkyard offered for sale new at around $40 a piece and they've been going strong for years with no cracks for him.
I worked for a lawncare company that had an 88 and an 89 both with 5.8L engines, both trucks had cracked manifolds.
When I look under the hood of a '87-'91 Ford truck more times than not I find cracked manifolds.
In all the above cases there was no backfiring, but you are right it will suck in fresh air. So what will happen is the fresh air is mixed with exhaust moving through the pipe. Once it reaches the oxygen sensor the engine recognizes the fresh air and assumes your truck is running lean. So it dumps more fuel in, which causes your mileage to go down. At the same time the fuel/air mixture coming into your catalytic converter is too dense and starts to plug it. Between running too rich and plugging the cat your truck starts to lose power and the fuel mileage heads downhill.
So if it's a cracked manifold it needs dealt with, however, calling it a "death tick" might be a little exaggerated. But isn't that what you'd expect from chevy guys anyway?
My friend back home who has 400,000 miles on his '90 with the 302 has replaced his manifolds with new Ford units three times, they all cracked. He found some cheap knock off chinese ones that a junkyard offered for sale new at around $40 a piece and they've been going strong for years with no cracks for him.
I worked for a lawncare company that had an 88 and an 89 both with 5.8L engines, both trucks had cracked manifolds.
When I look under the hood of a '87-'91 Ford truck more times than not I find cracked manifolds.
In all the above cases there was no backfiring, but you are right it will suck in fresh air. So what will happen is the fresh air is mixed with exhaust moving through the pipe. Once it reaches the oxygen sensor the engine recognizes the fresh air and assumes your truck is running lean. So it dumps more fuel in, which causes your mileage to go down. At the same time the fuel/air mixture coming into your catalytic converter is too dense and starts to plug it. Between running too rich and plugging the cat your truck starts to lose power and the fuel mileage heads downhill.
So if it's a cracked manifold it needs dealt with, however, calling it a "death tick" might be a little exaggerated. But isn't that what you'd expect from chevy guys anyway?