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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 10:48 AM
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I have factory gauges? Which brand of gauges do i need to replace them with.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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The EDGE insight, EDGE cs, EDGE cts or Scangauge are all great monitoring systems.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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What? No DashDAQ love in there?
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Not since the Edge Insight can read FICM voltage, fuel press, and egts. The CTS is the new bling-bling in the gauge world, especially once you price the add-ons.


OP, what do you mean by "factory gagues"? The idiot meters on the dashboard? Or are there actual 2" gagues that you want to replace with a different brand. Digital gauges like the Edge Insight CTS/CS, the SacnGaugeII w/ X-Gauge, and DashDaw are nice because they can monitor several things though the OBDII port under the dash without running any additional wires, and can even be expanded to monitor a few other things with plug and play sending units.

Autometer ($$$) and ISSPRO ($$) gagues are good if you want the round 2" add-on look and don't mind having 4-6 of them in your cab. The price rapidly exceeds the cost of a digital box, figure an average cost of $150-250 per gauges for actual gauges, vs $150 for the scangague up to $400 for the CTS. To watch the ECT/EOT split, the scanguage is the best deal going. Be warned, expanding the Edge units to do EGT and fuel press is about equal to the original cost of the unit.

The lowest cost solution to get the whole smash would be to combine them, use a scanguage for the coolant temp, oil temp, trans temp, (voltage or and boost, since the SCII can only show 4 at a time if I remember right), then add fuel press and pyro and (voltage or boost) as stand alone gagues.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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I would agree, SGII for "everything" and 1 or 2 analog gauges for the
rest you gotta have: fp and egt.

It would sure be nice for an SG3 with the ability to display 6 or 8 values.
I'm also considering a second SGII - they can be daisy-chained,
but I don't see a way for 2 of them on the blendmount

I monitor ficm, volts, eot, map.
Volts so I can tell when the alternator kicks in (after glow plugs go off)before I put it in gear to move after starting.

I'm torn with "just" a fuel gauge in a single a-pillar pod so I can retain the
grab handle, or going with the F650 dash and adding volts & fuel pressure there and replace volts with something else on the SGII.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by texastech_diesel
Not since the Edge Insight can read FICM voltage, fuel press, and egts. The CTS is the new bling-bling in the gauge world, especially once you price the add-ons.
I'm not sure bout the FICM voltage as that was something I never looked for(big shame shame shame on me, I know), but DashDAQ had the ability to look at Fuel PSI before the Edge products. EGTs I don't know which was first, but they both pretty much had that.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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Where is the best place to get edge or scan gauge
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Internets for the Edge CS or CTS, you can probably get the CTS between $350 and $400 or the CS from $250-300 if you look around enough. I went to Autozone to get the Scangauge, said they'd have it for me the next day because there wasn't one in stock.
 
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Do these just use the OBD outlet/tee into or do I have to add wiring/probes?
 
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Originally Posted by phantomphixer
Do these just use the OBD outlet/tee into or do I have to add wiring/probes?

Most readings are from the OBDII port, but for things like Fuel PSI and EGT readings that will have to be using an external probe that will back up to the monitoring device.

I don't think SGII though has the ability for external probes, but the Edge products and DashDAQ do.
 
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For the Edge, fuel pressure, EGT, and backup camera all require additional parts; namely, the EAS starter kit, the universal sensor input harness, the fuel press sending unit, thermocouple for EGTs, and any backup camera that can be hooked to a single RCA input.

It will read boost, ECT, EOT, Volt, FICM Volt, TFT, Boost, Tach, and a few others staright through the OBDII port.

The Scangauge can read basically any sensor on the truck since it's programable, but the truck doesn't read (so the SC2 can't support) fuel press, EGT, or any other add-on sending units.

Both the units I've seen plug directy into the port, no Tee, so you can't use them in conjuction with any programmer that uses the port using the provided wiring. I don't know if there's a way to wire in a T, but since I've never tried to run multiple boxes at once, I don't know if it works, or if the truck can handle multiple units interfacing simultaneously.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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Thanks for the info. Went to the EDGE site and found this too.

Edge Products| Installation
 
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