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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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I have a couple questions regarding my air condition in my truck. It’s a 2001 f350 7.3L. When driving the truck on the freeway, up a hill, or continually pressing down hard on the skinny pedal is the only time I can get cold air to blow through the vents. As soon as I take my foot off the skinny pedal, warm or outside air temperature blows throughout the truck. Then I hammer down on the skinny pedal again and I get 2 to 3 seconds of cold air or however long I hold the skinny pedal down for. This sounds like it is backwards to me. This also makes city driving a PITA because it is always warm, not to mention I am in So Cal in the desert where it is constantly 110+ outside. Does this ring any bells to you? Where do you think I should start? Thanks.
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 03:08 PM
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Check this:
SpringerPop's Compressor Clutch Air Gap

Almost sounds like the classic case.

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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 03:16 PM
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I am getting off work early and going to go home and try that right now. Is that pretty common around here?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 04:16 PM
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Very common, especially at that mileage.

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Old Sep 2, 2011 | 11:52 PM
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Pop,

Thank you very much for those instructions. The air gap was about double what it should be. Before I corrected the problem and the truck was on and a/c on the compressor would kick on and shut off every 10 seconds or so. So, I followed your steps and ended up taking out one shim (o-ring looken thing from the compressor plate). I took that one out and put everything back and drove around the block in the city traffic for about 10 min and everything worked like a charm. And let me tell yout he temperature outside was 110+. Thank you for your quick response and guidance. I really appreciate it. Now Hopefully I can help out the next member with a probelm.

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Old Sep 3, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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Lee,

Stick around FTE. It's a pretty-tight-knit community that really KNOWS these trucks.

Something wrong with the truck? SOMEBODY here will recognize your symptoms and correctly diagnose your problem, along with instructions to get it fixed.

Welcome aboard! You've found a good place if you're a 7.3 SuperDuty owner.

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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SpringerPop
Check this:
SpringerPop's Compressor Clutch Air Gap

Almost sounds like the classic case.

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Well first of all great write up. I just did mine earlier this week and and I ended up with.019 gap. Before it was .040. Now the air works alittle better but the clutch still cycles in and out. Last summer I had the feon checked and I had it sucked down and it had the correct amount in it. And I have had the same problem for 2 yrs. now. So I was wondering if you or anyone else might know how would I check the sensor on the high side. Ohmns? Or what would cause it to keep cycling? Does our trucks have any inline filters?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 02:46 AM
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The clutch HAS to be able to cycle. The question is the rate that it does. That changes depending on temperatures and pressures.

You really need gauges to check the switch operations. You also need to know the proper operation and pressures at which they should operate.

When the compressor discharge pressure hits approximately 450 psi, the switch contacts open, disengaging the A/C compressor clutch. When the pressure drops to approximately 260 psi, the contacts close again to allow the compressor clutch to engage. This is the high-pressure "safety" switch.

The low pressure "cycling" switch should open when the pressure drops to 21-24 psi, and close when pressure raises to 38-46 psi.

The accumulator has a filter built into it.

For a good explanation of gauge readings, see this:
Adding Freon to Car AC - Gauge Readings Explained

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Old Sep 4, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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The clutch HAS to be able to cycle. The question is the rate that it does. That changes depending on temperatures and pressures.

You really need gauges to check the switch operations. You also need to know the proper operation and pressures at which they should operate.

When the compressor discharge pressure hits approximately 450 psi, the switch contacts open, disengaging the A/C compressor clutch. When the pressure drops to approximately 260 psi, the contacts close again to allow the compressor clutch to engage. This is a high-pressure "safety" switch.

The low pressure (cycling) switch should open when the pressure drops to 21-24 psi, and close when pressure raises to 38-46 psi.

The accumulator has a filter built into it.

For a good explanation, see this:
Adding Freon to Car AC - Gauge Readings Explained | Denlors Auto Blog

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Thanks Pop Once again you have been very helpful. By the time I work though these a/c problems I won't need it. LOL But at least it be nice to know that it is one less problem my old truck would have.
 
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Found this thread snd thought I'd ask my question here-

My AC just went out today, while my engine was running. No previous issues, just stopped blowing cold air suddenly.

Looking under the hood, the compressor plate will turn a couple of revolutions, then stop, and there is a squeaking sound. It will then repeat the few turns, stop, and on and on.

Is this something that would be fixed by adjusting the air gap, or is the compressor officially gone at this stage?
 
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Old May 19, 2012 | 07:26 PM
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put gauges on it.
squeeling doesnt sound good tho.

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Old Aug 5, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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Thanks Pop for the priceless information. My symptons led me to the coil thinking maybe it's getting weak. After reading your prognosis I checked my air gap, adjusted as you explained and ............. Voila! Problem solved! Thank you from a faithful diy.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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NICE.. Thanks Pop. My AC has not been getting very cold. So today i did the Ac water line mod to try and help with it. Now i find this post. I just checked it and it's 44 thou out. So im going to remove 24 thou..

Thanks again People for reviving the old post
 
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Old Aug 5, 2012 | 11:37 PM
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What is the a/c water line mod? Is that where we eliminate the heater water when we want just a/c?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2012 | 11:42 PM
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