pyro gauge
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From: Mesa AZ
For what it's worth I have both brands and they seem to work fine. I prefer the ISSPRO for ease of reading. That being said...I agree 100% with the comments on the ISSPRO connector. If you do what I did and try using the next gauge wire size, you will be in for a tough installation. 
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From: Bend, OR
For what it's worth I have both brands and they seem to work fine. I prefer the ISSPRO for ease of reading. That being said...I agree 100% with the comments on the ISSPRO connector. If you do what I did and try using the next gauge wire size, you will be in for a tough installation.
DO NOT UP SIZE THE WIRE... The Isspro EV-2 use very little power, read less then 1/2 of a typical competitors gauge. The supplied wire size is MORE then adequate for the power sent. If you do this with the Performax gauges you can cause issues rather then help.
Otherwise talk to your supplier when you are ordering gauges, they should be offering or giving you a wire tool that you can use to push all the wires into the connector. If any of you need some of these please let your vendors know, or shoot me a message and I can send you one.
I'll talk to Michael about the wire connectors, but in reality they are the best way to allow the end user to install his or her gauges ANYWHERE you want on the line of gauges without butt splices or T connectors.
In 7 years of testing the Performax and EV-2 gauges I have never had an issue that ended up being because of a connector.
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From: Mesa AZ
First thing...
DO NOT UP SIZE THE WIRE... The Isspro EV-2 use very little power, read less then 1/2 of a typical competitors gauge. The supplied wire size is MORE then adequate for the power sent. If you do this with the Performax gauges you can cause issues rather then help.
Otherwise talk to your supplier when you are ordering gauges, they should be offering or giving you a wire tool that you can use to push all the wires into the connector. If any of you need some of these please let your vendors know, or shoot me a message and I can send you one.
I'll talk to Michael about the wire connectors, but in reality they are the best way to allow the end user to install his or her gauges ANYWHERE you want on the line of gauges without butt splices or T connectors.
In 7 years of testing the Performax and EV-2 gauges I have never had an issue that ended up being because of a connector.
DO NOT UP SIZE THE WIRE... The Isspro EV-2 use very little power, read less then 1/2 of a typical competitors gauge. The supplied wire size is MORE then adequate for the power sent. If you do this with the Performax gauges you can cause issues rather then help.
Otherwise talk to your supplier when you are ordering gauges, they should be offering or giving you a wire tool that you can use to push all the wires into the connector. If any of you need some of these please let your vendors know, or shoot me a message and I can send you one.
I'll talk to Michael about the wire connectors, but in reality they are the best way to allow the end user to install his or her gauges ANYWHERE you want on the line of gauges without butt splices or T connectors.
In 7 years of testing the Performax and EV-2 gauges I have never had an issue that ended up being because of a connector.
My gauges came with supplied signal wire and the push tool but it did not come with power, ground or dimmer wire so I had to find my own. I could not find the correct gauge wire at any of my local hardware stores. They had solid core in the correct gauge but not stranded wire. I bought the closest size I could find and tried to use it but no joy.
I ended up taking the drop from the signal wires and made a whip for power and ground and pressed them into the connectors along with the signal wires. I then soldered the larger wires onto the whip for the power and ground (and dimmer).
If the subject comes up when you are talking with Michael...it would be nice if the connectors were uni-directional so they can't be inserted backwards.
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From: Mesa AZ
If there is a way to mess it up, I'll find that way.
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2003
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From: Newport, WA
Joe, those little plastic POS's used to push the wire into the connector really do suck. I had to really baby them to get them to work right. If they aren't lined up dead on they just mess themselves up instead of push the wire in. Not sure there is a better way to design them, but it might be worth mentioning?
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I have to say.. I hated the connectors on the back of the EV2s also. Until I figured them out. Getting the wires into the orange connector were the hard part. I used a pair of channel locks in combination with the black helper tool and it worked perfectly.
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From: Payson, AZ
35 years in telecommunications, 32 years in switching COs. From step-by-step to X-bar to 1AESS and retired from 5ESS. Yeah, I have one. Ran across it a few years ago. Where? Heck if I know.
Probably in the garage though. I still have a wire wrap gun. 
Haven't seen it for years but I'm sure it's still around. Heck, I've still got wire spring relay adjusting tools.
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From: AL, Reform
i cant say about the ev2s but the Isspro gauge i have is older but works great. i have also had 2 autometers on my toyota truck and they worked great never a problem. i just like the Isspro for the stock look.
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From: Oregon
Hello Mark,
35 years in telecommunications, 32 years in switching COs. From step-by-step to X-bar to 1AESS and retired from 5ESS. Yeah, I have one. Ran across it a few years ago. Where? Heck if I know. Probably in the garage though. I still have a wire wrap gun. Haven't seen it for years but I'm sure it's still around. Heck, I've still got wire spring relay adjusting tools.
35 years in telecommunications, 32 years in switching COs. From step-by-step to X-bar to 1AESS and retired from 5ESS. Yeah, I have one. Ran across it a few years ago. Where? Heck if I know.
Probably in the garage though. I still have a wire wrap gun. Haven't seen it for years but I'm sure it's still around. Heck, I've still got wire spring relay adjusting tools.
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Joined: Nov 2007
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From: Payson, AZ
Say yes so I don't have to try and find the one I have.
