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Nope, not losing coolant and it holds at steady 206-210 on the road and cools to about 200 when I sit and idle.
I think I'm missing a heat shield by the starter. It's sluggish to turn over after running at 210.
I think I'm missing a heat shield by the starter. It's sluggish to turn over after running at 210.
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The sluggish restart might be the starter itself--once "heat soak" occurs they heat up and in effect suck up a lot of the starting amperage overcoming the winding's high heat---increased resistance.
A stater draw test can be done at someplace like AutoZone, et al----they're glad to help you buy a new battery or starter----can't hurt to give that a try.
A stater draw test can be done at someplace like AutoZone, et al----they're glad to help you buy a new battery or starter----can't hurt to give that a try.
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Thanks for the comments about the starter. Thing is, when the engine is cool (195 or below) the starter has plenty of juice. By the way, it's a new starter.
I crawled under there this AM and just checked things out. There is an exhaust manifold that runs about 4 inches from the starter. Also, running over the top of the exhaust manifold with about 2 inches clearance are the transmission cooling lines.
Having the starter that close to the exhaust can't do it any good and I'd bet it's all that heat that is adverseley effecting it.
As for the transmission cooling lines, I can't believe there isn't a heat shield between the lines and the exhaust. It just doesn't make any sense to heat up the tranny fluid on it's way back to the tranny. I had the tranny rebuilt about a year ago. I wonder.....?
Anybody know if there is a heat shield up by the starter / tranny cooling lines? I might even start a new thread regarding heat shields. Before I do, i'm gonna do a little search.
I crawled under there this AM and just checked things out. There is an exhaust manifold that runs about 4 inches from the starter. Also, running over the top of the exhaust manifold with about 2 inches clearance are the transmission cooling lines.
Having the starter that close to the exhaust can't do it any good and I'd bet it's all that heat that is adverseley effecting it.
As for the transmission cooling lines, I can't believe there isn't a heat shield between the lines and the exhaust. It just doesn't make any sense to heat up the tranny fluid on it's way back to the tranny. I had the tranny rebuilt about a year ago. I wonder.....?
Anybody know if there is a heat shield up by the starter / tranny cooling lines? I might even start a new thread regarding heat shields. Before I do, i'm gonna do a little search.
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How close to a higher heat source is your starter solenoid? Has this hard re-start recently developed or been with you since owning this van?
It wouldn't hurt to replace or fabricate a heat shield for the trans lines or starter. I do wonder if Ford's idea didn't run towards any heat would be partially dissapated when driving, air flow would "cool" those areas sufficiently?
I know that has to be a cause for concern---never know when it could just refuse to start at all. Naturally it would be at the worst possible time!
It wouldn't hurt to replace or fabricate a heat shield for the trans lines or starter. I do wonder if Ford's idea didn't run towards any heat would be partially dissapated when driving, air flow would "cool" those areas sufficiently?
I know that has to be a cause for concern---never know when it could just refuse to start at all. Naturally it would be at the worst possible time!
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It has refused to start in the past. Just wait 10-15 minutes and all is well. I have even tried to jump it when it is hot. It simply refuses to turn over until it is ready.
I'm getting older now so I don't remember exactly when the problem started, but I believe it was right after my transmission job. My guess is they left off a heat shield. They returned my stick shift GEO with the console and boots half together after a clutch job so I reckon they don't pay much attention when they reassemble.
I'm getting older now so I don't remember exactly when the problem started, but I believe it was right after my transmission job. My guess is they left off a heat shield. They returned my stick shift GEO with the console and boots half together after a clutch job so I reckon they don't pay much attention when they reassemble.
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No chance for a shield. Too complicated. I'm gonna get some exhaust wrap. Anybody ever try that stuff?
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I would not feel comfortable running over 200*.....
I have a 180* thermostat in my Diesel motorhome and I like it running at that.
Only reason why they even make hot thermostats is for emissions......an engine will live alot longer running 160-180*, but will be slightly less fuel efficient.
I have a 180* thermostat in my Diesel motorhome and I like it running at that.
Only reason why they even make hot thermostats is for emissions......an engine will live alot longer running 160-180*, but will be slightly less fuel efficient.
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In my 1988, my battery really heats up from the high temps in the engine compartment (I forgot the temp, but it was in excess of 140F.) Shielding both the starter and the battery wouldn't hurt. I was thinking of insulating the engine side of the battery, and leaving the front side exposed to fresh air from the grill, and see how that works.
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