TRIP UPDATE...some good some bad...
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TRIP UPDATE...some good some bad...
Hey folks,
Well I took a trip with the family to see my aunt and uncle and meet up with my parents for their 40th wedding anniversary so long story short put 700 miles on the truck since Thursday night and just got home.
First off I ran Matts tow tune and have been running his tow tune for about a month now and for me I thinks its a great daily driver tune, I averaged about 19 mpg, my eot an ect temps averaged 8* separation on the highway running 70-74 mph, EGTs stayed around 600-800* with a max near 1000* for short periods of time pulling a long hill, turbo psi was a max of 30, still sticking, and trans temps stayed around 159*
So those number look comparable to what all you guys seem to be posting lately. I forgot how great this truck runs and its not a chore to drive I love it.
The wife and I have been talking seriously about trading up to a 11 but after this trip and some recent reading in the 6.7 forum I think I am going to stick with the 06, its running good and paid for.
Now for the bad:
On teh way home, maybe 100 miles or so away, I developed a howl in the rear end. I was hoping it was a front wheel bearing but when I go thome I ran down to the shop and put it on the lift and its definatly the rear end singing away.
I am glad to say the truck didnt leave me stranded and other than the newly developed howl it was another great trip with my truck.
So I checked my paperwork and my Ford Premium Care ESP hasnt run out yet and doesnt until 2/28/2012 so Im guessing that this will be a coverd repair as it say drive axle housing and internal components. I think I will have them rebuild the turbo again to buy me some time and not have to worry about blowing the head gaskets.
Hope everyone had a great weekend too!!
Sarge
Well I took a trip with the family to see my aunt and uncle and meet up with my parents for their 40th wedding anniversary so long story short put 700 miles on the truck since Thursday night and just got home.
First off I ran Matts tow tune and have been running his tow tune for about a month now and for me I thinks its a great daily driver tune, I averaged about 19 mpg, my eot an ect temps averaged 8* separation on the highway running 70-74 mph, EGTs stayed around 600-800* with a max near 1000* for short periods of time pulling a long hill, turbo psi was a max of 30, still sticking, and trans temps stayed around 159*
So those number look comparable to what all you guys seem to be posting lately. I forgot how great this truck runs and its not a chore to drive I love it.
The wife and I have been talking seriously about trading up to a 11 but after this trip and some recent reading in the 6.7 forum I think I am going to stick with the 06, its running good and paid for.
Now for the bad:
On teh way home, maybe 100 miles or so away, I developed a howl in the rear end. I was hoping it was a front wheel bearing but when I go thome I ran down to the shop and put it on the lift and its definatly the rear end singing away.
I am glad to say the truck didnt leave me stranded and other than the newly developed howl it was another great trip with my truck.
So I checked my paperwork and my Ford Premium Care ESP hasnt run out yet and doesnt until 2/28/2012 so Im guessing that this will be a coverd repair as it say drive axle housing and internal components. I think I will have them rebuild the turbo again to buy me some time and not have to worry about blowing the head gaskets.
Hope everyone had a great weekend too!!
Sarge
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Do you think they might put a Powermax in for you? It will solve the turbo problem likely for good. My understanding is that when Ford rebuilds a turbo, they don't replace all the internals included in a GPOPshop kit. You're lucky you still have time left on the warranty!
BTW I only got 8K out of my Ford turbo rebuild before it was leaking and sticking again.
BTW I only got 8K out of my Ford turbo rebuild before it was leaking and sticking again.
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No fluid leaks and the fluid was full when I checked it before I left, I have a MagTech cover with a dipstick so its easy, ealier this year I had a ABS light while towing and the rear speed sensor was faulty, there wasnt any metal stuck to the sensor so I didnt think anything of it.
Last year however the pinion seal was replaced because it was leaking so Im not sure if something happened with that or not, maybe something wa screwed up in there that got missed... not sure. I will udate this thread with the outcome.
If its not a coverd repair for whatever the reason, I may take this opportunity and upgrade to 4.10's, Im not sure if that would be a good move or how much fuel mileage I would loose but with the 285's Im running (considering 315's next time) it may be worth it.
Sarge
Last year however the pinion seal was replaced because it was leaking so Im not sure if something happened with that or not, maybe something wa screwed up in there that got missed... not sure. I will udate this thread with the outcome.
If its not a coverd repair for whatever the reason, I may take this opportunity and upgrade to 4.10's, Im not sure if that would be a good move or how much fuel mileage I would loose but with the 285's Im running (considering 315's next time) it may be worth it.
Sarge
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I was thinking carrier bearing as well only because they did the seal a while aga and I was thinking maybe something didnt get assembled right (crush collar mainly).
As for the 6.7, the whole emissions stuff is alittle scary and that seems to be the big hiccupp, not nec. a manufacturer problem but a customer problem. Adding DEF to the diesel tank and vise versa...very costly and it could happen at anytime. I know that my wife wouldnt pay attention, possibly me as well with the shifts I work and to have a 19k repair on a 60k truck that Im making payments on is SCARY!!!!
Also just pricing my truck to replace it with exactly what I have will cost me right around 55k and whatever I get for trade...the thought of a 800.00 a month truck payment makes my stomach turn.
Then there is the whole thing about modding these trucks, I just cant leave anything alone so Im not sure I could go as far with a 6.7 as I have/will go with my 6.0, and again it runs great, looks great, rides great, and no payments.
I will be out of warranty 2/28/2012, so if it starts to be problem after problem I will have to make a decision, but even if I bullet proof the engine with ARP's a Powermax, and a Bullet Proof Cooler, as well as have to rebuild the trans or replace it I will still be miles ahead money wise that I would be in a 6.7.
Would I love to have a 2011 or 2012 SD with a 6.7....hell yes, and having the permission slip presigned makes it worse for me, cause the wife said if I want it buy it, I just still love my 06. I'm thinking of updating the interior door panals and seats from a 08-10 SD just to change it up.
Im hoping I can keep the 06 for a long time, unless emissions regs force me out of my truck but I dont see that happening atleast around here.
Im in a good situation as well, my truck wont depreciate much more I dont think, its paid for, and if the 6.7 proves its self to be extremly reliable then I could always make the plunge, buisness is good for me as well, so every month I sock away what my truck payment used to be in an account dedicated to repairs/replacement of my current truck, so if it breaks I'll fix it or replace it then.
Sarge
As for the 6.7, the whole emissions stuff is alittle scary and that seems to be the big hiccupp, not nec. a manufacturer problem but a customer problem. Adding DEF to the diesel tank and vise versa...very costly and it could happen at anytime. I know that my wife wouldnt pay attention, possibly me as well with the shifts I work and to have a 19k repair on a 60k truck that Im making payments on is SCARY!!!!
Also just pricing my truck to replace it with exactly what I have will cost me right around 55k and whatever I get for trade...the thought of a 800.00 a month truck payment makes my stomach turn.
Then there is the whole thing about modding these trucks, I just cant leave anything alone so Im not sure I could go as far with a 6.7 as I have/will go with my 6.0, and again it runs great, looks great, rides great, and no payments.
I will be out of warranty 2/28/2012, so if it starts to be problem after problem I will have to make a decision, but even if I bullet proof the engine with ARP's a Powermax, and a Bullet Proof Cooler, as well as have to rebuild the trans or replace it I will still be miles ahead money wise that I would be in a 6.7.
Would I love to have a 2011 or 2012 SD with a 6.7....hell yes, and having the permission slip presigned makes it worse for me, cause the wife said if I want it buy it, I just still love my 06. I'm thinking of updating the interior door panals and seats from a 08-10 SD just to change it up.
Im hoping I can keep the 06 for a long time, unless emissions regs force me out of my truck but I dont see that happening atleast around here.
Im in a good situation as well, my truck wont depreciate much more I dont think, its paid for, and if the 6.7 proves its self to be extremly reliable then I could always make the plunge, buisness is good for me as well, so every month I sock away what my truck payment used to be in an account dedicated to repairs/replacement of my current truck, so if it breaks I'll fix it or replace it then.
Sarge
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I was thinking carrier bearing as well only because they did the seal a while aga and I was thinking maybe something didnt get assembled right (crush collar mainly).
As for the 6.7, the whole emissions stuff is alittle scary and that seems to be the big hiccupp, not nec. a manufacturer problem but a customer problem. Adding DEF to the diesel tank and vise versa...very costly and it could happen at anytime. I know that my wife wouldnt pay attention, possibly me as well with the shifts I work and to have a 19k repair on a 60k truck that Im making payments on is SCARY!!!!
Also just pricing my truck to replace it with exactly what I have will cost me right around 55k and whatever I get for trade...the thought of a 800.00 a month truck payment makes my stomach turn.
Then there is the whole thing about modding these trucks, I just cant leave anything alone so Im not sure I could go as far with a 6.7 as I have/will go with my 6.0, and again it runs great, looks great, rides great, and no payments.
I will be out of warranty 2/28/2012, so if it starts to be problem after problem I will have to make a decision, but even if I bullet proof the engine with ARP's a Powermax, and a Bullet Proof Cooler, as well as have to rebuild the trans or replace it I will still be miles ahead money wise that I would be in a 6.7.
Would I love to have a 2011 or 2012 SD with a 6.7....hell yes, and having the permission slip presigned makes it worse for me, cause the wife said if I want it buy it, I just still love my 06. I'm thinking of updating the interior door panals and seats from a 08-10 SD just to change it up.
Im hoping I can keep the 06 for a long time, unless emissions regs force me out of my truck but I dont see that happening atleast around here.
Im in a good situation as well, my truck wont depreciate much more I dont think, its paid for, and if the 6.7 proves its self to be extremly reliable then I could always make the plunge, buisness is good for me as well, so every month I sock away what my truck payment used to be in an account dedicated to repairs/replacement of my current truck, so if it breaks I'll fix it or replace it then.
Sarge
As for the 6.7, the whole emissions stuff is alittle scary and that seems to be the big hiccupp, not nec. a manufacturer problem but a customer problem. Adding DEF to the diesel tank and vise versa...very costly and it could happen at anytime. I know that my wife wouldnt pay attention, possibly me as well with the shifts I work and to have a 19k repair on a 60k truck that Im making payments on is SCARY!!!!
Also just pricing my truck to replace it with exactly what I have will cost me right around 55k and whatever I get for trade...the thought of a 800.00 a month truck payment makes my stomach turn.
Then there is the whole thing about modding these trucks, I just cant leave anything alone so Im not sure I could go as far with a 6.7 as I have/will go with my 6.0, and again it runs great, looks great, rides great, and no payments.
I will be out of warranty 2/28/2012, so if it starts to be problem after problem I will have to make a decision, but even if I bullet proof the engine with ARP's a Powermax, and a Bullet Proof Cooler, as well as have to rebuild the trans or replace it I will still be miles ahead money wise that I would be in a 6.7.
Would I love to have a 2011 or 2012 SD with a 6.7....hell yes, and having the permission slip presigned makes it worse for me, cause the wife said if I want it buy it, I just still love my 06. I'm thinking of updating the interior door panals and seats from a 08-10 SD just to change it up.
Im hoping I can keep the 06 for a long time, unless emissions regs force me out of my truck but I dont see that happening atleast around here.
Im in a good situation as well, my truck wont depreciate much more I dont think, its paid for, and if the 6.7 proves its self to be extremly reliable then I could always make the plunge, buisness is good for me as well, so every month I sock away what my truck payment used to be in an account dedicated to repairs/replacement of my current truck, so if it breaks I'll fix it or replace it then.
Sarge
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So me and the 06 will grow old together and I hope she continues to treat me well.
Sarge
#13
UPDATE
Hey Guys,
Well the storm has put a whoopin on us up here so the truck has been on the back burner. The dealer has addressed my issues however, The rear end was completely rebuilt, for some reason they couldnt isolate the noise and rather than fool around with it they completely rebuilt it.
It has taken longer than it should due to te fact that the parts that had to be orderd wwere comming from CT who was also hit hard so they could ship out and they had to find them from someone else. The dealer was kind enough to offer to put the ruck back together to allow me to take it and move my equipment around, but I made other arrangements and wired up the old faithful 85 K20 with electric brakes.
The turbo is being replaced with a new unit which was comming from out west somewhere so I should have the truck back next week. So I should be able to hold off on the power maxx for a bit and get a winch for my new....wait and I will post another thread on that.
Anyway I hope you all enjoy the long weekend and for all those affected by the storm I hope all is well. I have been working and helping with the clean up efforts up here and my prayers go out to all of those in need.
Sarge
Well the storm has put a whoopin on us up here so the truck has been on the back burner. The dealer has addressed my issues however, The rear end was completely rebuilt, for some reason they couldnt isolate the noise and rather than fool around with it they completely rebuilt it.
It has taken longer than it should due to te fact that the parts that had to be orderd wwere comming from CT who was also hit hard so they could ship out and they had to find them from someone else. The dealer was kind enough to offer to put the ruck back together to allow me to take it and move my equipment around, but I made other arrangements and wired up the old faithful 85 K20 with electric brakes.
The turbo is being replaced with a new unit which was comming from out west somewhere so I should have the truck back next week. So I should be able to hold off on the power maxx for a bit and get a winch for my new....wait and I will post another thread on that.
Anyway I hope you all enjoy the long weekend and for all those affected by the storm I hope all is well. I have been working and helping with the clean up efforts up here and my prayers go out to all of those in need.
Sarge
#14
Update To The Update
I got the truck back, and the parts list is long. Looks like they replaced all the bearings in the rear end and all seals.
The good news is that the unison ring was so froze up it needed a whole new center section. Here is the parts list for the turbo repair, maybe someone can tell me exactly what these were:
5C3Z-9G489-ACRM
3C3Z6C885-A
PM-2
XL-2
I am assuming that the PM2 and XL 2 are cleaner and lube which is probly why the truck was smoking for a few. Well it definately smells new under the hood so I know they did something.
After the smoke stopped it ran good, glad to have it back. Hopefully this will fix the smoke/fuel smell I had last winter. Didnt smell it on the way home and like I said with the exception of some whitish smoke for a minuite or so things were great.
Maybe now I will try Matts SLR tune since I wont have to worry about the turbo overboosting anytime soon.
Sarge
The good news is that the unison ring was so froze up it needed a whole new center section. Here is the parts list for the turbo repair, maybe someone can tell me exactly what these were:
5C3Z-9G489-ACRM
3C3Z6C885-A
PM-2
XL-2
I am assuming that the PM2 and XL 2 are cleaner and lube which is probly why the truck was smoking for a few. Well it definately smells new under the hood so I know they did something.
After the smoke stopped it ran good, glad to have it back. Hopefully this will fix the smoke/fuel smell I had last winter. Didnt smell it on the way home and like I said with the exception of some whitish smoke for a minuite or so things were great.
Maybe now I will try Matts SLR tune since I wont have to worry about the turbo overboosting anytime soon.
Sarge
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The first item is the turbo center section. I'm pretty sure the second item is the unison ring.
Glad you got it fixed. I had the same work done in May 2010 and the smoke was a little alarming at first but eventually went away as the lube burned off.
Be careful on the SLR tune. Once you try it you won't want to go back!
Glad you got it fixed. I had the same work done in May 2010 and the smoke was a little alarming at first but eventually went away as the lube burned off.
Be careful on the SLR tune. Once you try it you won't want to go back!