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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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Brake Drum Nightmare

My f-250/350 frankentruck needed new brake cylinders and as it turned out, new shoes and drum on the passenger side. It was all siezed up and after a few shots with the sledge the drum fractured clean in 2. It was fun. I thought getting a new drum would be no big deal but it seems I was wrong. My old drum measures 12 & 1/8" diameter by 5 1/4" tall and the area for shoe contact seems to be 3 1/2". The shoes that were on there were 3". It is a 1 ton dually - but originally was a 3/4 ton single. I tried the 12 X 3" and it wouldn't go over the shoes even with the spacer nut backed all the way down and the parking brake disconnected. I got a 12 1/8" (not sure if they may have given me the one for 3 1/2" shoes) which is supposed to be for dual rear wheels but its several inches too tall and rides on the backer plate.
Anyone run up against this before? I think I'm looking for a 12 1/8" by 3" with a total height of 5 1/4" for a dually. But I'm not sure since the area of the old drum for shoe contact measures 3 1/2". Then I thought maybe I need a 12 1/8" by 3 1/2" for single rear wheel but so far I've been led to believe that doesn't exist.
As you may have picked up, I'm not sure what rear end I have in this truck since the previous owner did the rear end swap. The truck is titled f-250, 1993 but those are just words on paper.
Anyone have any tips for me on how to figure out what drum I need? I'm completely stuck.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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First off, I think you need to figure out for sure which axle you have. I know that a 93 F250 is supposed to have a Sterling 10.25 full float axle, and I believe an F350 DRW should also use a Sterling 10.25. However, IIRC, Dana 80 axles were also used in F350s during some model years (I don't know off of the top of my head which years), so I could be that you're looking for drums from a different year/model of truck.

A quick search of Google tells me that a Sterling 10.25 is going to have a 12 bolt cover, while the Dana 80 is going to be a 10 bolt cover.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 06:22 PM
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Dana = filler plug on rear cover
Sterling = filler plug on drivers front side of pumpkin casting.

What's to keep you from taking the drivers side drum in to the parts place and matching it up?
 
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Old Aug 20, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
What's to keep you from taking the drivers side drum in to the parts place and matching it up?

Best idea I've heard...
 
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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I followed ArdWrknTrk's advice and brought the "good" drum into my parts shop and they measured it which led a lot of head scratching. Turns out these are custom drums. And when I say custom, think duct tape. I'm not sure why the previous owner choose to go this route but seems that he took the drums for a single wheel rear end (12" diameter) and had them turned out to accommodate the 12 1/8" diameter of the shoes on this axle.
We only concluded this after we had run through each and every resource for locating a 12 1/8" X 5.25" drum - and realized they don't exist.
The solution? Take a brand new 12" X 5.25" and turn it till it is 12 1/8". I may have lost tens of thousands of miles of life on the new drum but I prefer to think of having lightened it for racing. At least I'm back on the road.
I'm guessing a different wheel carrier would allow the correct drums for a dually to fit, and at some point I'd like to put the correct drums on, will I need new wheel carriers or something else?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 07:03 PM
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ya different backing plates and then go from there, new is the only way to go there
 
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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you may also wanna take a look a a drum for a f350 or e350 cab and chassis they are are a little different than pickup stuff specially if it looks like spring perches have been messed with
 
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