Safety? True story, traveling north on I-15 in Montana (where it is legal), coming out of Wolf Creek Canyon there was a boat trailer, nose up, climbing the inside Jersey barrier (with the boat ejected from the trailer), the conventional travel-trailer was in front of that, on it's side. In front of that, smashed into the barrier, wrong way around, was the pickup that had been towing this train. My guess is he got caught in cross-winds, the tail started wagging the dog, and the train started swaying, until the entire thing crashed. Just 'cause it's legal, doesn't mean it's smart

 

According to my registered gvw wich is 5500 im already over weight because with the truck empty the scale puts me at 8900 i guess the dealer had to lie so i could have passenger plates

 

And from all my research "triple tow " is not allowed in my state or surronding

 

You almost have to have a science degree to figure all this out. Search the internet for info on what all the various ratings mean. The one I found to be a problem in towing my 12,000 lb loaded fifth wheel was the CGVWR. It took an F350 dually to be legal.

Games have certainly been played with weights to secure favorable licensing. That's basically a tax issue. My comments on CGVWR is related to safety.

Funny comment though!

 

Before you do this, try a little experiment and let us know how you make out.

Go out to Toys R Us (or similar) and purchase three children's plastic wagons. Get different brands and styles just for fun. Bring them all home and hook them together in a train. You can use ropes to tie them together if you want. Now go out for a walk. Turn lots of corners. Try backing up a few times. Once you have this mastered, do it again at night.

Report back here and tell us how you liked it.

Bottom line is you are asking for BIG trouble if you attempt triples with equipment that was not designed to be towed in that manner. IMHO.

 

Ok i dont know if you read my opening coment but i drive tractor trailers for a living and for a couple of years i drove doubles for a frieght company so i have a doubles and triples endorsement on my cdl i do know how to handle two trailers at 30' a piece and once drove a set of 48' upstate so if im allowed to do it on a large scale why cant i do it on a small scale so its not a question of skills just legality

As far as your experiment i dont need you talking to me like im a child plus how is pulling three wagons showing anything wouldnt it be two wagons

 

In California you must have a Commercial Class A license with a double trailer endorsement to tow more than one trailer, whether for recreational or commercial use. Per CVC 35401(b)(1) the maximum length of the truck and both trailers is 75 feet (65 feet for a single trailer), but neither trailer can be longer than 28 feet 6 inches. The first trailer must be a 5th wheel, but the second trailer can be a 5th wheel or a regular trailer. In California cities and counties can set their own lenght limits and can limit combinations to 60 feet. Even with all that I still see SRW F350's pulling loaded 40 foot toyhaulers with 25-30 foot boats behind them...

 

Yea im just gonna look at a small boat to get in the bed or something

 

Hasbrouck I regulary pull my 39' toy hauler with my 21' cobalt behind it no hassles or problems as long as your equipment is clean and looks fairly new with all lights working the Hipo's leave you alone out here the only problem is finding a fuel station that you can pull a 73' land train into and out of without taking a few pumps with you!
Jim...& fat Monty

 

I mentioned before that I was surprised how well the second trailer tracked. Come up to a normal street intersection and turn right, I swing out wide to get the TT to clear the inside curb about 1.5-2' with the tires, surprisingly the second trailer (boat) will miss the same curb by nearly the same amount, maybe tracked in a half a foot. When I came home from caping before I would leave the whole rig on the street so I could get the lawn mower to tow the boat in the yard before pulling in. Now after doing the double trailer deal at least 6 times now I am comfortable pulling in the yard with the whole rig and maneuver the back yard with it. There are corners where the TT itself will barely fit threw and the boat follows suit just fine. I admit the first couple times pulling double will make you a nervous wreck. But like anything after a few trips it starts to be routine and normal. Just watch ahead and know where you are going, most people that see the two trailer will yield for you. I still have the occasional oblivious blond coming up the on ramp that doesn't look over till the last second, freaks out, blows horn, nearly goes in the ditch because someone is next to me and I can't move over.

A couple camping trips ago I had that happen where a woman was coming up the ramp and was blowing her horn at me to move over. There was two vehicles next to me so I couldn't move over, I just left the cruise on and stayed the course. She saw the two trailers and had to of seen the cars next to me because she had to fall back and get in line behind me. She swings over to the right lane and passes me, when she got next to the X she looks over with this (I thought it looked funny) grumpy FU look and flips me off and continues driving. Really?....

All summer there is construction going on in one of the towns we pass threw on our way to camping. The highway is restricted down to 10' lanes with cement barriers on both sides of the road so no shoulder what so ever. No reduced speed threw this ordeal either. Road is uneven and they make you drive threw a road course pretty much. Not one time this year did it fail that some idiot gets next to me threw this entire thing and just stays there. Not much time to check the mirrors but the few times I took a quick glance I saw about 1-1.5' of clearance between the TT and the cement barrier on my side of the road. it would have been nice if I only had to worry about the one side but the idiot in the vehicle next to me had me worried about both sides. Would love to stop and get out to slap some people sometimes.

 

Well, I looked up the actual law on this here in MN, and nowhere does it say that the first trailer must be a fifth wheel. I was kind of surprised by this because I was always under the impression that it had to be a fifth wheel. I guess it could be covered under another law somewhere else, but I haven't been able to find it.

 

It's amazing to me how many people think that the lane merging has the right-way-way and that the people in the main-line must "yield" to them

 

You're right about that. They think the world around them must do anything to accommodate them, forget about the 2-3 lanes of traffic traveling at 60MPH.

That isn't much of a problem for me know that I am driving my Super Duty and not my Honda.

 

Can you imagine how much better ou highways would work if we used European standards for lane travel? Those idiots would be forced to drive correctly or lose their license! But in this country we give out drivers licenses without any training or regard for public safety, it's al most criminal to let anybody tow any trailer with out any experience or training. I see people leave the lot with 36' bumper pulls hooked up to Tahoes and F-150's driven by people who have NEVER TOWED ANYTHING BEFORE!!!!!!! that's a fatal accident waiting to happen! Sorry I see too many (at least 1 each weekend we travel to the dunes! And we go twice a month at least!) sorry I'll climb down off my soap box now
Jim...& politically incorrect fat Monty

 

I'm having an arithmetic problem. I tow my 13,700 pound fifth wheel with a 350 SRW and I am not over any weight limit.

The truck has a GVWR of 11,500. With all of the folks and crapola, it weighs 9,200 pounds. The kingpin weight is about 2,100 pounds, so I'm at 11,300. GVWR is good to go.

The GCWR is 23,000. So with a 9,200 pound truck and a 13,700 pound trailer, I'm grossing out at 22,900. It's close, but still still insurable.

I'm trying to figure out how a 12,000 pound trailer will put you over any of the limits, unless it's a bumper pull, which you said it isn't. You're not adding the GVWR and the weight of the trailer are you? Part of the GVWR is the trailer. What am I missing?