Tragic Excursion accident
I drove into the back of a stopped car 
going about 15-25 MPH when I was young.
I didn't have on my seat-belt. I lifted up out of the
seat and then sat back down - I didn't hit anything inside,
but I was shocked to be a "pendulum" pivoting
at my feet - my face got VERY close to the windshield.
I have worn my seatbelt EVERY time I am in a car
ever since that day (over 30 years ago).
Yes, your car might flip upside down into a water filled
ditch, or be in some other rare event where the
seatbelt "might" be worse to have on, but the
seatbelt really does offer better chances than not
wearing it.
I rode our town's rescue vehicles back in NJ, and
responded to a lot of wrecks on the roads/interstate
and the State Police officers mentioned they
very RARELY had to unbuckle deceased people from
vehicles, but very OFTEN have to cover deceased
people that get ejected from their vehicle.

going about 15-25 MPH when I was young.
I didn't have on my seat-belt. I lifted up out of the
seat and then sat back down - I didn't hit anything inside,
but I was shocked to be a "pendulum" pivoting
at my feet - my face got VERY close to the windshield.
I have worn my seatbelt EVERY time I am in a car
ever since that day (over 30 years ago).
Yes, your car might flip upside down into a water filled
ditch, or be in some other rare event where the
seatbelt "might" be worse to have on, but the
seatbelt really does offer better chances than not
wearing it.
I rode our town's rescue vehicles back in NJ, and
responded to a lot of wrecks on the roads/interstate
and the State Police officers mentioned they
very RARELY had to unbuckle deceased people from
vehicles, but very OFTEN have to cover deceased
people that get ejected from their vehicle.
It was just that - luck, not your driving skill that has you "only" having rear end accidents. Hopefully you only risk your own life in your car and not your passengers as well.
x2... It was because of my brother's attitude toward seat belts that got his kids ejected from the car. Thankfully my son is terrified to drive in the car more than ~20 mph without his belt on. It quite possibly saved his life.

He was probably on a cell phone. Haven't seen a cop for the last
10 years that wasn't driving and talking on a cell phone.
Yup, saw one the other day TEXTING or at least staring at his cell phone while he was driving. He would have looked real cute if I had got a picture of him doing that.
You can not text while driving in Virginia. But the state code exempts cops with the excuse they might need to send each other sensitive information they don't want the public to hear with scanners.
I imagine any state that bans texting while driving exempts cops.
Virginia law also exempts cops from the window tint law as well.
I imagine any state that bans texting while driving exempts cops.
Virginia law also exempts cops from the window tint law as well.
You can not text while driving in Virginia. But the state code exempts cops with the excuse they might need to send each other sensitive information they don't want the public to hear with scanners.
I imagine any state that bans texting while driving exempts cops.
Virginia law also exempts cops from the window tint law as well.
I imagine any state that bans texting while driving exempts cops.
Virginia law also exempts cops from the window tint law as well.
I just hope that if a cop killed someone due to texting or distracted driving with a cell phone, they would receive the same punishment anyone else would.
Problem is it's the ones you dont see coming that will kill you. I got clipped in the rear of my car by a guy running a red light. If I went throught that intersection a 10th of a second later I would have been a lot worse off. Seatbelts are like insurance, you hate to pay it every month, but your glad you did when you need it.
Tell that to the cop that pulled out in front of me when I was on my bike, making me lay it down to keep from going over his hood.
It was just that - luck, not your driving skill that has you "only" having rear end accidents. Hopefully you only risk your own life in your car and not your passengers as well.
It was just that - luck, not your driving skill that has you "only" having rear end accidents. Hopefully you only risk your own life in your car and not your passengers as well.
Shouldn't live your life worrying your going to die all the time.
...I pay attention to where my vehicle is going, what is ahead of me, what everyone around me is doing, and what the vehicles on the cross roads are doing. If something is going to happen to me it is going to be because of another driver, not my driving. Even then it will take quite a bit of luck for the other driver to get to me. I have been in 3 accidents in my life, every one of them was me getting hit from behind and I saw every one of them coming and knew what was going to happen...
Me, I wear a seabelt because I want to stack the odds toward seeing my grand children in about 15 years. I have the same rule as AlaskanEx too. Wear 'em or walk.
That is because it is a truck and not a car. As the man said, best not to push it. The EX has no sense of speed and like most big trucks I have driven it has no road feel and before you know it you have driven off the road. Most cars you let go of the steering wheel and the wheel goes back to center and nothing happens. With the EX you let go and it is going wherever it wants to which won't be a straight line. Then you over correct start fish tailing and then this movie happens. By the way the vehicle drives, I don't know if I am going 40 or 100 MPH. I try to keep it under 80 and more like 75 if for no other reason than saving gas.
Perry
Perry
This accident is exactly why I caution people here about driving fast in an Excursion. They're not stable at high speed. Once you do lose control, here's what happens.......
1998 Ford Expedition Sled-Rollover Crash Test - YouTube
1998 Ford Expedition Sled-Rollover Crash Test - YouTube
You could easily counter that with "you shouldn't live your life trying to get killed all the time"
Thats not a counter, thats every day life. Every time you step outside your house you are putting yourself at risk of somehow dieing. Some people are so scared of everything that they don't leave their house.
Yes a certain degree of safety is needed no matter what your are doing whether it be wearing safety glasses when cutting something or wearing gloves while working with sharp objects. But do you dress in full chain mail when you are cutting something because you might slip and cut something other then your hand? No, you take the risk and just pay attention to what you are doing so you don't cut yourself. You can slip, fall, break you neck and die while taking a shower every morning but you still do it. Maybe you should have a seatbelt in the shower to hold yourself up just in case. When a storm comes and tornado sirens are going off are you in the basement or outside watching for a tornado? Do you put a lightning rod hat on when a storm is near because you 'might' get struck? Do you still smoke even though cigarettesmoking kills more Americans than AIDS, alcohol, car accidents, murders, suicides, drugs and fires combined?
My point is I am not trying to kill myself by not buckling up, I am just exercising my 'not so free right anymore' of restraining myself to my seat or not if ever someone collides with my vehicle. Anything can happen at any time to anyone, no need to go threw life constantly worrying about. Just live your life, do what you want to do, use common sense while doing it, and when the end comes it comes.
Not wearing seatbelts isn't a choice it's just ignorant and selfish. There is no justification for not wearing them. There are a lot of kids without parents, lots of parents without partners and parents without kids. If you don't want to wear them for yourself, why not wear them for your loved ones?
Excursions are one of the safest rigs on the road. Even then, @&%$ happens.
Excursions are one of the safest rigs on the road. Even then, @&%$ happens.






