351w Headers
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I agree whole heartedly. The FE 390 has to be my favorite most fun engine. I wish I had another one. I seem to remember that it had the most stock horsepower over all the other ford motors. 2barrel for 2 barrel. I also can not remember if the chart had the 460 though.
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I'll settle with the fact that at least you're a ford believer, or at least it makes sense that you would be if you're on here.
And that engine looks kick ***.
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I agree whole heartedly. The FE 390 has to be my favorite most fun engine. I wish I had another one. I seem to remember that it had the most stock horsepower over all the other ford motors. 2barrel for 2 barrel. I also can not remember if the chart had the 460 though.
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Yeah my buddies 390 kicks butt.
Yes also I'm mainly a Ford guy and I'm open to owning and using parts off the "other" brands though. I don't dig the blind, brand loyalty BS many here abide by.
And 201 HP - aren't the 80's 351w's rated at more than that? Bolt on some heads and you are way above that.
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390=195hp. No thanks. Mine has an edelbrock intake, 4bbl carb and longtubes. All tuned up and............its not up to par for my liking. I'm sure I could rebuild it with better parts, but I just don't see that in the cards. I've had great luck with Windsors, but am leaning towards a 460 right now due to ease of use (bellhousing, motor mounts, headers) and the cheap cost to make some power. Seems the hp/$ is best with the 3.85s. Thanks to all for their input!
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Before it was gross HP, now it is net HP... net is with accessory drives and other parasitic losses. Therefore, citing HP figures from the 60s isn't the same as citing HP figures in the 70s. The 195 HP figure is net... add another 20 percent to 30 percent as a thumbnail guide for comparison.
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The poster I had came out of car and driver "100 years of the automobile" if I remember right. It was sometime in the mid eighties. They were stock engines compared to stock engines. I remember the 351m/400 had less horsepower than the 302. I wish I still had the poster.
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Thank god... Windsor is the way to go. When we're 50 years down the road, which engine will be talked about? The windsor... not the 390...
What engine is it that can be built to hold more HP than the 390 could ever dream of? The Windsor... Google it... a pre 74 Windsor engine can hold over 2000 horses. What can your 390 hold? Not nearly that much my friend. No offense, but that beats the hell out of your arguement.
I'll gladly be convinced differently though.
Lol, yeap! they sure are!
I'll gladly be convinced differently though.
Yeah my buddies 390 kicks butt.
Yes also I'm mainly a Ford guy and I'm open to owning and using parts off the "other" brands though. I don't dig the blind, brand loyalty BS many here abide by.
Neither do i... I'm not a fan of the whole "brand loyalty" either.
And 201 HP - aren't the 80's 351w's rated at more than that? Bolt on some heads and you are way above that.
Yes also I'm mainly a Ford guy and I'm open to owning and using parts off the "other" brands though. I don't dig the blind, brand loyalty BS many here abide by.
Neither do i... I'm not a fan of the whole "brand loyalty" either.
And 201 HP - aren't the 80's 351w's rated at more than that? Bolt on some heads and you are way above that.
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Try some 80-94ish headers-351W/5.8L for a F250 4x4, might work! Or be close. I've made a 69 429 fit with late 70 2wd chassis headers into an 88 F150, not pretty and the 429 killed the truck, but it worked.
Fab and welding FTW.
The FE engines are good, just can't find the good parts anymore. I had a 74 F100 360 2V 4spd 4X4, and a 76 F250 Highboy, 390(yes, and it wasn't stock) 4V 4spd 4x4.
The F100 360 would slip the clutch, the F250 390 would lay rubber. Tough motors, nearly indestructible!
The 351W has incredible potential! Small and light, all kinds of parts available, no real weak points, except parts that can be changed.
Strokers galore for options!
I would like to build a simple 393Clevor, stock 351 block, aftermarket crank, stock rods, stock 302/5.0 pistons, and some high compression 351Cleveland heads.
Of course, more stroke is available, which equals torque(or a 408, or a sweet 427)
One Day!
Restore, use what you have, its a Ford!
Make it work, and enjoy it.
Fab and welding FTW.
The FE engines are good, just can't find the good parts anymore. I had a 74 F100 360 2V 4spd 4X4, and a 76 F250 Highboy, 390(yes, and it wasn't stock) 4V 4spd 4x4.
The F100 360 would slip the clutch, the F250 390 would lay rubber. Tough motors, nearly indestructible!
The 351W has incredible potential! Small and light, all kinds of parts available, no real weak points, except parts that can be changed.
Strokers galore for options!
I would like to build a simple 393Clevor, stock 351 block, aftermarket crank, stock rods, stock 302/5.0 pistons, and some high compression 351Cleveland heads.
Of course, more stroke is available, which equals torque(or a 408, or a sweet 427)
One Day!
Restore, use what you have, its a Ford!
Make it work, and enjoy it.
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What engine is it that can be built to hold more HP than the 390 could ever dream of? The Windsor... Google it... a pre 74 Windsor engine can hold over 2000 horses. What can your 390 hold? Not nearly that much my friend. No offense, but that beats the hell out of your arguement.
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390=195hp. No thanks. Mine has an edelbrock intake, 4bbl carb and longtubes. All tuned up and............its not up to par for my liking. I'm sure I could rebuild it with better parts, but I just don't see that in the cards. I've had great luck with Windsors, but am leaning towards a 460 right now due to ease of use (bellhousing, motor mounts, headers) and the cheap cost to make some power. Seems the hp/$ is best with the 3.85s. Thanks to all for their input!
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Hmm.. really? I've never come across something like that before on any threads I've searched up, but hey.. it's worth a shot if it'll give me some headers!
And I'm planning on building a 408 stroker or "Torque Monster" as I call it. All for the purposes of towing. It might be overkill, but whatever, i'll have fun building it!
And I'm planning on building a 408 stroker or "Torque Monster" as I call it. All for the purposes of towing. It might be overkill, but whatever, i'll have fun building it!
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I'm starting with a roller block 351w and will stroke to 393. I could go bigger but why??? I want the thing to have low compression. Yup - you read that right. I need it to run on Pemex (mexican gas) when I'm down there so will keep at 9.5:1 max.
It'll be EFI with a stand alone computer. I've got an SDS one right now but may go to megasquirt. I've got boxes full of bolt ons for it already including a BBK throttle body, eldelbrock intake manifold, etc.
Should compare to my buddies 390 that's for sure. They're guessing that 390 is about 500 hp.
Oh - and here's the truck it's going in!
More pics here
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