Anyone running a coolant filter?
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I had a trace of antifreeze in my last oil sample, what are the odds its coming from the oil cooler? If not that, then is it maybe the injector O rings? I have probably 70 to 80K on them. Next winter when I have time I'll have to figure that one out.
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From: Ashland City, TN
but could be o-rings.
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Unless you have a leaking injector cup there is no way for the antifreeze to get into the oil through the fuel injection system is there?
I would hope that the oil cooler is the culprit. Otherwise, it sounds spendy (and time consuming) to get this fixed IMO.
I would hope that the oil cooler is the culprit. Otherwise, it sounds spendy (and time consuming) to get this fixed IMO.
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From: Newport, WA
When the cups crack you get fuel in the coolant. When oil cooler o-rings fail you get oil in the coolant. Coolant in the oil... could be injector o-rings maybe or maybe just a fluke? I'd keep an eye on it Glenn and see if comes back on the next oil change.
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From: Ashland City, TN
Well, north of Tim Beggs.
I'll send an email to get his number for ya.
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From: Mi'kma'ki
filters:
P/N 4070 - 0 units of DCA charge
P/N 4071 - 4 units of DCA charge
P/N 4072 - 6 units of DCA charge
P/N 4073 - 8 units of DCA charge
P/N 4074 - 12 units of DCA charge
ford clearly states only the newer coolant to be used in 1999+ vehicles.
the reason is,the seals are not made for newer coolant in these older diesels.
however adding a coolant filter can extremely elongate your flush intervals.of course proper SCA levels much remain in check.
there are many "release as needed" type of SCA pre-charged filters as well,that differ from the dump in type sold at napa.these may be something of interest as well.though more expensive.many brand names and they release the SCA's via a few different methods.
penray and baldwin for examples to search via google.
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How does a pre-charged filter work? Do you get a filter with enough charge in it and it will add that amount to your coolant and keep on working as a filter. Also, I assume you get coolant without the charge so you don't get too much additive.
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Actually international doesn't recommend elc until mid-2000. The injector cups on the 1999 won't be a fan of an elc
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From: Mi'kma'ki
example one:
you recently flushed OR just added SCA's to your coolant.however you got here doesn't matter.in short;you have precharged low silicate coolant with proper level of SCA.
then you would either use the NAPA (wix) filter #4070 or a need release type of filter.
example two:
you coolant is still well under 30k miles,but you just tested the coolant,and see its time to add a little additive.
then you would use the proper NAPA (wix) filter to bring you properly back up,OR you would use a need release type filter and let it do it for you.
of course you could also just use the #4070 (blank) and add the SCA's yourself.
for how the release as needed type work,this varies between brand.
google is your friend here,but here's how baldwin does it for example:
Baldwin Filters | Coolant Filters
no matter what combo and method filter type you use,you always want to check it as always imho every other oil change,or roughly every 10k miles like always to inspect SCA levels yourself.its just cheap and easy insurance.
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simple really.
example one:
you recently flushed OR just added SCA's to your coolant.however you got here doesn't matter.in short;you have precharged low silicate coolant with proper level of SCA.
then you would either use the NAPA (wix) filter #4070 or a need release type of filter.
example two:
you coolant is still well under 30k miles,but you just tested the coolant,and see its time to add a little additive.
then you would use the proper NAPA (wix) filter to bring you properly back up,OR you would use a need release type filter and let it do it for you.
of course you could also just use the #4070 (blank) and add the SCA's yourself.
for how the release as needed type work,this varies between brand.
google is your friend here,but here's how baldwin does it for example:
Baldwin Filters | Coolant Filters
no matter what combo and method filter type you use,you always want to check it as always imho every other oil change,or roughly every 10k miles like always to inspect SCA levels yourself.its just cheap and easy insurance.
example one:
you recently flushed OR just added SCA's to your coolant.however you got here doesn't matter.in short;you have precharged low silicate coolant with proper level of SCA.
then you would either use the NAPA (wix) filter #4070 or a need release type of filter.
example two:
you coolant is still well under 30k miles,but you just tested the coolant,and see its time to add a little additive.
then you would use the proper NAPA (wix) filter to bring you properly back up,OR you would use a need release type filter and let it do it for you.
of course you could also just use the #4070 (blank) and add the SCA's yourself.
for how the release as needed type work,this varies between brand.
google is your friend here,but here's how baldwin does it for example:
Baldwin Filters | Coolant Filters
no matter what combo and method filter type you use,you always want to check it as always imho every other oil change,or roughly every 10k miles like always to inspect SCA levels yourself.its just cheap and easy insurance.
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From: Newport, WA
The cups are fine, its the sealant between them and the head that sometimes doesn't agree with ELC. The same can be said for OBS trucks.
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William:
I just changed my coolant filter (installed a DIY kit) about 2K miles ago) and executed the mandatory dissection. The initial discharge was greenish, when the filter came off the head. After sitting about 1/2 an hours, the residuals from inside the filter added a very noticable "metallic sheen" to the green fluid. inside the case, the liquid had a significant "solids" content and the fluid was 'coated' with a dark paste-like substance. kinda of hard to tell as it was still 'wet'. (drying now)
As best as i can tell, the filter is doing the job most all the advertisements claim it capable of. For the token amount of my DIY kit, I'm happy and believe my new water pump will see a very long service life.
I just changed my coolant filter (installed a DIY kit) about 2K miles ago) and executed the mandatory dissection. The initial discharge was greenish, when the filter came off the head. After sitting about 1/2 an hours, the residuals from inside the filter added a very noticable "metallic sheen" to the green fluid. inside the case, the liquid had a significant "solids" content and the fluid was 'coated' with a dark paste-like substance. kinda of hard to tell as it was still 'wet'. (drying now)
As best as i can tell, the filter is doing the job most all the advertisements claim it capable of. For the token amount of my DIY kit, I'm happy and believe my new water pump will see a very long service life.
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William:
I just changed my coolant filter (installed a DIY kit) about 2K miles ago) and executed the mandatory dissection. The initial discharge was greenish, when the filter came off the head. After sitting about 1/2 an hours, the residuals from inside the filter added a very noticable "metallic sheen" to the green fluid. inside the case, the liquid had a significant "solids" content and the fluid was 'coated' with a dark paste-like substance. kinda of hard to tell as it was still 'wet'. (drying now)
As best as i can tell, the filter is doing the job most all the advertisements claim it capable of. For the token amount of my DIY kit, I'm happy and believe my new water pump will see a very long service life.
I just changed my coolant filter (installed a DIY kit) about 2K miles ago) and executed the mandatory dissection. The initial discharge was greenish, when the filter came off the head. After sitting about 1/2 an hours, the residuals from inside the filter added a very noticable "metallic sheen" to the green fluid. inside the case, the liquid had a significant "solids" content and the fluid was 'coated' with a dark paste-like substance. kinda of hard to tell as it was still 'wet'. (drying now)
As best as i can tell, the filter is doing the job most all the advertisements claim it capable of. For the token amount of my DIY kit, I'm happy and believe my new water pump will see a very long service life.
It's kinda scary they don't put coolant filters on everything isn't it?