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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Let's talk about some CNG

I finally landed a new job that involves driving about 100-150 MPD. I have been reading about some cng through the intake, cng injection. i'm just wondering if anyone is currently running any set up and how it's working. The town I'm staying in has a cng station so acess is not a problem.

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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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If you're going to post about the fracking don't bother. I want to hear about what is working and what is not please keep your enviromental whako opinions to yourself and I promise I won't make you look stupid

.http://www.mrtruck.net/cng.htm

There has got to be a cheaper way



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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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Sounds interesting. I like the more power and cheaper.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 03:34 AM
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If you're going to post about the fracking don't bother. I want to hear about what is working and what is not please keep your enviromental whako opinions to yourself and I promise I won't make you look stupid

."CNG, compressed natural gas, is it the answer for the fuel crisis, we review a diesel/cng conversion."

There has got to be a cheaper way



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I don't want to risk you making me look stupid, so you go first. I think you should install that homemade looking CNG kit on your truck and report back. It looks like Rube Goldberg designed it. If your 6.0 blows up, I promise I won't make you look stupid.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 04:30 AM
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There are a lot of the oil field trucks running it here and a station for CNG 2 miles from my house. I think it's a viable alternative fuel for diesels and can provide some great increases in MPG. The science isn't new but still in a relative stage of infancy and pricey. I know one of the trucks in the Diesel Power challenge got something like 38 mpg with a combination of CNG and diesel, but at what point is it cost effective to invest in a CNG system vs. burning that much extra diesel? IMHO you should be able to convert over for a LOT less than the price they listed.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Isn't natural gas injection like nitrous to a gas motor, makes the fuel burn more complete
 
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mich6.0
Isn't natural gas injection like nitrous to a gas motor, makes the fuel burn more complete
No. It takes heat, fuel, and air to make combustion. CNG is fuel. Nitrous is air. I'm not a chemist or a combustion expert and I'm sure that CNG has a similar affect, but they are different parts of the combustion cycle.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 06:48 AM
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The science isn't new but still in a relative stage of infancy and pricey.
That's the biggest drawback to me. Wait until it's more mainstream to where you don't have to worry about fueling stations period (not just the ones along that one route) and to where you won't have to worry about if you have to fix things that go wrong with the truck. I'm not saying that you don't know how to fix things, but that costs time as well as money. Is it an efficient use of your time for you to be fixing your own truck or for someone else to? Not many places here are going to want to deal with a truck that is modified in such a way and considering there isn't a CNG station within 150 mile radius from here, it isn't viable yet until the infrastructure is there.


Make sure you do a C/B ratio on this little endeavour. Personally, if I had that kind of a drive, I would have made sure that I would have been able to expense it all if it was work related, otherwise, I wouldn't have taken the job. Fuel, relative to everything else, is at a price point to where you have to make sure it's covered by expenses as long as it's work related.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:25 AM
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I use NG in my house and a Phil sta cost about 3k and no station around here that i know of. I thought about using it for my to and from work drive but the cost is too high to conver. But is sound good but no money. good luck with you search, and keep us inform.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:31 PM
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I found a shop that does the conversion they said 25% savings in fuel cost. It's still a couple grand installed. I'm going to check it out next week.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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I don't want to risk you making me look stupid, so you go first. I think you should install that homemade looking CNG kit on your truck and report back. It looks like Rube Goldberg designed it. If your 6.0 blows up, I promise I won't make you look stupid.



Need I say more?
 
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mudmagnet63
I found a shop that does the conversion they said 25% savings in fuel cost. It's still a couple grand installed. I'm going to check it out next week.
I would like to see the calculations that go into that % or if they are just getting that from one of their customers or reading that off ad copy of the kits.

MPG calculations, fuel savings etc will raise eyebrows with me until I get the nitty gritty. I don't know how many people buy into the ad copy that tuning companies have out there about fuel savings running one of their programmers.

I'm not saying that that is the case here, but I would like to see how they are coming to that conclusion first.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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I agree, they said I could contact some previous customers to question them. but that could be his brother in law for all I know. I'm going to have to see some pretty good evidence before I drop a couple grand.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Need I say more?
Please don't. You're first post was silly enough.

By the way, nobody's answered your questions because nobody here wants to be a guinea pig.
 
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was just looking this up today and ran across this.....

Prices- CNG conversion kits cylinders tanks
 
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