4 X 4 Problem
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,967
Likes: 7
From: Eccles, WV
4 X 4 Problem
Hey WV Gang. I have a problem I cannot find and with this back, it makes it even harder. Is there anyone near me that can put a second set of eyes on my truck and tell me where they think this pop noise is coming from? I am in Hansford, Between Montgomery and Chelyan.
Just answer the string, then we will go from there.
Just answer the string, then we will go from there.
Cargo Master
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 8
From: WV
If it was 11 years ago I would swing by and give you a hand.
Maybe we could offer some long distance help.... what are you doing when the sound happens? Going over small bumps? Driving in a turn? Does it only happen at low speeds or high speeds? When you hit the brakes? Maybe something totally different?
Cheeto.... crazy??
Naaaah 
Maybe we could offer some long distance help.... what are you doing when the sound happens? Going over small bumps? Driving in a turn? Does it only happen at low speeds or high speeds? When you hit the brakes? Maybe something totally different?
Cheeto.... crazy??
Naaaah
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,967
Likes: 7
From: Eccles, WV
The pop is strange. It happens either when in Auto or manual (hubs). I put it in 4WD, it will travel a few feet and then the most horrendous bang you ever heard comes from under the truck. It may do it several times, but the truck appears to be in 4WD. My first thought was the transfer case. But my understanding is that it is all gears and no chain. It has got to be that the hubs are not fully locking on the axle stubs. Removing the lockouts does not reveal any type of damage to the stubs or to the internals of the lockouts. The u-joints in the axles and the driveshaft appear to be free and not frozen.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
Post Fiend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,181
Likes: 3
From: Across from the neighbors
I cant see the aluminum transfer bein gear drive. I thought all the newer stuff (80-) were chain drive.
Trending Topics
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,967
Likes: 7
From: Eccles, WV
It may be and the chain is popping as it jumps the gears. Damn, I would hate to have to tear into that thing. The last time I worked on a TC was about 25 years ago. It was a simple New Process in a Dodge truck. I had it out, new chain and gears installed and back in the truck in about 3 hours.
FTE Stories
Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)
Michael S. Palmer
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer
Joe Kucinski
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)
Brett Foote
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies
Joe Kucinski
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make
Brett Foote
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!
Michael S. Palmer
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!
Joe Kucinski
Cargo Master
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 8
From: WV
Yeah, I'm pretty sure its chain driven.
Have you tried putting it in 4x4 and moving it while you're hubs are removed? I think you could try this in the driveway and not tear anything up. I probably wouldn't run it at speed that way though.
The t-case would still shift into 4x4 so that would either rule out or point to the hubs being the problem.
Do you ever hear this noise when you're not in 4x4?
Have you tried putting it in 4x4 and moving it while you're hubs are removed? I think you could try this in the driveway and not tear anything up. I probably wouldn't run it at speed that way though.
The t-case would still shift into 4x4 so that would either rule out or point to the hubs being the problem.
Do you ever hear this noise when you're not in 4x4?
The village idiot.
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,126
Likes: 1
From: Southern WV
Do you have the hubs that are auto and locking type? Hard to explain if you don't know what I'm talking about but at any rate...our fleet trucks have them (3 F250s and 4 F350s) and so far all but one have failed. Some multiple times and ford won't fix it so we just manually lock them when we get on the jobsite. They would pop and bang and push the front end in a turn but the 4wd wasn't engaged. They didn't actually, "break" but our mechanic said something about them slipping inside themselves. IDK how they work so that's about all the help I can be lol. Sorry
Cargo Master
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,215
Likes: 8
From: WV
All it takes to keep the auto hubs on a Super Duty working properly is to service them regularly. I do mine about twice a year.
Guzzle's writeup is the gold standard on doing this....
Welcome to guzzle's 4x4 Autolock Hub Lubrication Maintenance Web Page
If you do that and watch out for vacuum leaks then they are relatively reliable.
Guzzle's writeup is the gold standard on doing this....
Welcome to guzzle's 4x4 Autolock Hub Lubrication Maintenance Web Page
If you do that and watch out for vacuum leaks then they are relatively reliable.
The village idiot.
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,126
Likes: 1
From: Southern WV
All it takes to keep the auto hubs on a Super Duty working properly is to service them regularly. I do mine about twice a year.
Guzzle's writeup is the gold standard on doing this....
Welcome to guzzle's 4x4 Autolock Hub Lubrication Maintenance Web Page
If you do that and watch out for vacuum leaks then they are relatively reliable.
Guzzle's writeup is the gold standard on doing this....
Welcome to guzzle's 4x4 Autolock Hub Lubrication Maintenance Web Page
If you do that and watch out for vacuum leaks then they are relatively reliable.
But, even though we are responsible for our own pickup, we aren't allowed to even rotate the tires. We have to pay someone if our mechanics "don't have time".
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,967
Likes: 7
From: Eccles, WV
I still cannot fiure this out and I sure am going to hate taking it to the local stealership. They are now charging over $100 per hour which is a total screwjob when they only pay their mech around $18. Overhead they say. I say, BS.
Thread Starter
|
Lead Driver
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 5,967
Likes: 7
From: Eccles, WV
Doug, I do not have torsion bars. It is something with the 4WD and I just cannot figure it out. The bang is when it comes out of 4WD under throttle, like it is not fully engaged.