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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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ok maybe not 350 i thought the truck was rated a 220 stock but anways. I know im going to get more than stock hp outta it with a $2000 budget.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 6.9idi
ok finding that the engine had 185hp stock maybe my 350hp is a lil off
Right.. so with that reality check your next question is.. "so how much HP can I make within budget?" 300hp isn't that hard or expensive, maybe a little more with GT40 heads or some home porting on the stock E7s. Rebuild the bottom end to stock spec with 0.030" over pistons, get the heads ready, install the Comp 35-349-8(like a HO cam with more lift, and yes it's SD friendly), bolt on headers and a complete exhaust system, and there you go. I'd also suggest installing 4.10 gears in the rear axle and some traction bars, and a shift kit in the trans and then you're all set to go rice hunting.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
Right.. so with that reality check your next question is.. "so how much HP can I make within budget?" 300hp isn't that hard or expensive, maybe a little more with GT40 heads or some home porting on the stock E7s. Rebuild the bottom end to stock spec with 0.030" over pistons, get the heads ready, install the Comp 35-349-8(like a HO cam with more lift, and yes it's SD friendly), bolt on headers and a complete exhaust system, and there you go. I'd also suggest installing 4.10 gears in the rear axle and some traction bars, and a shift kit in the trans and then you're all set to go rice hunting.

I like your thinking. Not too extreme but enough.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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Pual do you have a link to that comp cam you where talking about?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Also he's keeping in mind two important parts: reliability and long run affordability (little to none extra maintenance and a chance you mileage will actually go up a little).
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 6.9idi
Pual do you have a link to that comp cam you where talking about?
Here you go. BTW... it's the cam I have in my 5.0 right now.

COMP Cams 35-349-8 - COMP Cams Xtreme Energy Camshafts - Overview - SummitRacing.com
 
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 10:07 AM
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You're not, but the 5.8 will make a 100 ft/lbs more TQ at 2000rpm. Same goes for a 347 but then you're back to needing a 5.8 computer or possibly a MAF upgrade depending how well the motor breaths.
You don't need the 351 computer, just "Cross-wire" the injectors, and they use the same plug for the distributors. Thats what I did. I had a 5.0 in a 89, and I put in a 351 and kept the same computer.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 10:10 AM
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Also from what research I have done. You can take a SD 351w, add good heads, headers, intake, throttle body, and larger injectors and get +-330hp, without even camming it up, or boring it out.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SCRebel
You don't need the 351 computer, just "Cross-wire" the injectors, Thats what I did. I had a 5.0 in a 89, and I put in a 351 and kept the same computer.
You messed up then, the injectors are batch fired and should not be altered at all, the only thing that has to change is the spark plug wiring order.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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Also from what research I have done. You can take a SD 351w, add good heads, headers, intake, throttle body, and larger injectors and get +-330hp, without even camming it up, or boring it out.
Sorry but.. larger injectors will not cooperate with a stock SD computer, and if someone did all that and only got 330hp they wasted their money because you can get nearly 300hp without the heads, intake, TB, and injectors.
 
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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You messed up then, the injectors are batch fired and should not be altered at all, the only thing that has to change is the spark plug wiring order.
What do you mean "batch" fired?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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They'll fire in sets of 4....or, in batches.....

The first batch will fire in sequence, then the second batch will fire, and it wall repeats....
 
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SideWinder4.9l
They'll fire in sets of 4....or, in batches.....

The first batch will fire in sequence, then the second batch will fire, and it wall repeats....
Do you know the specific order? or what injectors are in each batch?. It would seem 5.0 or 5.8 wouldn't really matter if they fire in batches
 
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My assumptions on that would be, the firing order....Go 1-4, then 5-8...Whatever the firing order is....

I assume that the firing order would be the same as the injector sequence....As it wouldn't make sense to squirt fuel on a non-firing piston....
 
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SideWinder4.9l
My assumptions on that would be, the firing order....Go 1-4, then 5-8...Whatever the firing order is....

I assume that the firing order would be the same as the injector sequence....As it wouldn't make sense to fire fuel on a non-firing piston....
I did some searching, and the firing order and the injector firing order do not match,. 5.0 firing is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8. & injector firing order is #1-(1-4-5-8), #2-(2-3-6-7).

Its supposed to evenly distribute fuel in the intake

Because of this, Why should it matter 5.0 or 5.8?
 
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