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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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I took a stock ford Dizzythat I got at Auto Zone for about $40 which has a 10L and a 15L in it, I used the stock breaker plate with much lighter Mr. gasket springs that I got from Summit Racing for $4.25 and then a Pertronix ignitor II. I removed the old vac. adv. Swapped in an Adjustable Vac. adv. from Rock Auto $9 and topped it off with a 40,000 volt Flame thrower. Looks stock but runs much better! I had used an MSD with the 6AL trigger Box,when I built the engine, but it had no Vac Adv which gave great acceleration, but poor mileage. and I had eletrical issues with it too. My Home made set up gives great power, and easy adjustability, without the pain of Points, and around town I am averaging 15.88 MPG with a T98 and a 4:10 Dana 60. I have a torque cam from Comp Cam, and roller tipped Rockers with Comp Cam Hydraulic Lifters and stock push rods. Ported and polished GT heads out of an old Mustang that had a 390. with Sanderson headers and a custom built dual Exhaust made up by Doug's. I Built the 352 for reliability, meaning over kill on all of teh parts, but focused on Mileage and efficiency. It is topped off with an Edelbrock performer 390 intake and an 1805 thunder series 650 cfm carb. I still have the MSD stuff, and might sell it, if my nephew doesn't want it for his Mustang... But the Auto Zone dizzy was an easy do! took about 40 minutes to modify.... I used the link below for the how too.

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Sounds like a strong build. Had I to do it again; I would have thrown in a cam. I have an Edelbrock 600cfm sitting on a Ford cast 4v intake. I also run headers and 2-1/2" duals through Trinity mufflers. I run the original Pertronix Ignitor. What application did you ask for when you purchased your dizzy from Autozone? I've been kind of leary of purchasing electrical parts from them but it sounds like you made out ok. I'm wondering if all of their Ford dizzys come with 10L's? Thanks a ton!
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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Sounds like a strong build. Had I to do it again; I would have thrown in a cam. I have an Edelbrock 600cfm sitting on a Ford cast 4v intake. I also run headers and 2-1/2" duals through Trinity mufflers. I run the original Pertronix Ignitor. What application did you ask for when you purchased your dizzy from Autozone? I've been kind of leary of purchasing electrical parts from them but it sounds like you made out ok. I'm wondering if all of their Ford dizzys come with 10L's? Thanks a ton!
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It is a Cardone part number 30-2807 I think!! it was about $45 total with tax... check it to make sure it has the 10L/15L cam plate! it should!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 12:44 AM
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It is a Cardone part number 30-2807 I think!! it was about $45 total with tax... check it to make sure it has the 10L/15L cam plate! it should!
Did they let you pull the breaker place to look? Most of the lackies here couldn't tell me what cam it had.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 01:18 AM
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Did they let you pull the breaker place to look? Most of the lackies here couldn't tell me what cam it had.

I have spent enough money at the local Auto Zone, between my truck and my Mustang, and my business trucks, that they don't care anymore. I use their computer, look up the parts, go pull them off the shelf, and then let them ring 'em up. They call me now for tech questions. I got their preffered buyer card, and at the end of the year, last year, had almost $1000 bucks in credit built up on it, from buying parts and fluids for my work trucks, and my kids cars and so forth.. My slick I get most of the parts at Summit, Jeg's, the Truck shop, or Rock Auto. but if you build a good rapor they are pretty cool about things. They give me freebies all the time, got a set of MSD 8mm plug wires, someone bought them, and then cut them wrong, but they fit my truck just fine, so they gave them to me... cool deal. All of my heater hose was a freebie.. they were discontinuing 5/8 red hose.. my engine is done in red, black and polished aluminum.... 15 ' free hose! carry a screw driver and gapping gauge with you, and just pull it apart, at the counter, takes what a minute or two... if it is wrong put it back together... tell them it is the wrong one! AZ hires know nothings, but they are usually pretty good guys. just get to know them!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 01:21 AM
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I have spent enough money at the local Auto Zone, between my truck and my Mustang, and my business trucks, that they don't care anymore. I use their computer, look up the parts, go pull them off the shelf, and then let them ring 'em up. They call me now for tech questions. I got their preffered buyer card, and at the end of the year, last year, had almost $1000 bucks in credit built up on it, from buying parts and fluids for my work trucks, and my kids cars and so forth.. My slick I get most of the parts at Summit, Jeg's, the Truck shop, or Rock Auto. but if you build a good rapor they are pretty cool about things. They give me freebies all the time, got a set of MSD 8mm plug wires, someone bought them, and then cut them wrong, but they fit my truck just fine, so they gave them to me... cool deal. All of my heater hose was a freebie.. they were discontinuing 5/8 red hose.. my engine is done in red, black and polished aluminum.... 15 ' free hose! carry a screw driver and gapping gauge with you, and just pull it apart, at the counter, takes what a minute or two... if it is wrong put it back together... tell them it is the wrong one! AZ hires know nothings, but they are usually pretty good guys. just get to know them!
Why a gapping guage?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 01:32 AM
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Why a gapping guage?

If you pull their dizzy apart, you can re-gap the points as you put it back together if it is the wrong one!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 01:35 AM
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If you pull their dizzy apart, you can re-gap the points as you put it back together if it is the wrong one!
Haha! Good point. Thanks! Off to Autozone tomorrow. Hope I get lucky. My son is a mechanic and has warned me against the Cardone brand. He's had problems with them in newer models with internal modules. Don't know what they could screw up on a simple unit like ours.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 02:10 AM
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Well the only part you want is the cam plate, you can pull it and swap it into your own, but it seems easier to just swap things into the new dizzy that way you have new bearings and a new drive gear... Cardone GM stuff is pretty hokie, had a lot of modules that warped on my old work trucks, but the Stock GM did the same thing so I can't really blame Cardone if GM has the same issue. The Cardone for the Fords is a points set anyway, so no big deal, all you have is a few plates, weights springs, a few bearings, and a gear. Pretty damned simple! Some have the adjustable Vac adv. already... saves a bit of work... good luck on it!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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Well I'm finding that Autozone and Oreillys are pretty useless when it comes to carrying parts for older vehicles. When Oreillys was Checker Auto; I could get alot more product. Mot so anymore. Neither Autozone nor Oreillys carry the dizzy for my truck. I found one at a different place for a bit more money. I hope it has the 10L cam.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Well I'm finding that Autozone and Oreillys are pretty useless when it comes to carrying parts for older vehicles. When Oreillys was Checker Auto; I could get alot more product. Mot so anymore. Neither Autozone nor Oreillys carry the dizzy for my truck. I found one at a different place for a bit more money. I hope it has the 10L cam.

I got mine back in November, and I know the Local AZ had a management change about 2 months ago or so, throughout all the local stores..... You can always do a google search by part number and you will find it that way! That has always worked for me!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:06 PM
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Oh one other thing... have them search it as a 67 or later 390...... it is the same Dizzy, for some reason they didn't show it for the 352 at mine either.... I forgot about that ... Sorry! I had them search it as a 67 f250! and that got it!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Oh one other thing... have them search it as a 67 or later 390...... it is the same Dizzy, for some reason they didn't show it for the 352 at mine either.... I forgot about that ... Sorry! I had them search it as a 67 f250! and that got it!
Thanks! I just figured that out after finding the dizzy on Autozone's website.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 04:25 PM
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Awesome back in business.... or is that Biznesss!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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Well I ended up with another 13L but this dizzy is so much better than the priginal one. Can I just slip a piece of thin hose over the cam stop pin in the pic below to limit mechanical advance? Which spring do I replace to bring the timing in sooner?
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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Yes you can drop the hose over it , but then you are advanced a bit at initial set, and what happens if it comes loose? Never been fond of that mod as you never know exactly what degree you have! The spring kit is the Mr Gasket 925D it replaces both springs with a matched set of lighter springs. I have a link to get it at Summit cheap!

Mr. Gasket 925D - Mr. Gasket Advance Curve Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com

That should help you out! My distributor actually had two different springs in it one very heavy one, and one stock one! When I first installed it I had a heck of a time getting it to come down to the same idle point each time after throttling. switching to a matched lighter set solved that issue.. My Guess is one weight was not retracting the same as the other. You can also bend the outer tabs in towards the shaft just a bit, but make sure you have a bit of tension on the springs.
 
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