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While gear ratio DOES determine the "max" tow rating...that is only part of the answer.
In a nutshell the "max" tow rating is as follows.
V10:
2wd 3.73 gears = 10,000#
2wd 4.30 gears = 11,000#
4wd 3.73 gears = 9,600#
4wd 4.30 gears = 11,000#
HOWEVER while Ford "rates" the vehicle at this "max"...there are so many other factors that truly determine the REAL tow rating.
Passengers, gear, optional equipment, additional aftermarket equipment (i.e. winches, bumpers, etc) all take AWAY from the "max" theoretical tow rating.
The "max" tow rating is for a CURB WEIGHTED vehicle...not many Ex's (or ANY vehicle for that mater) are ever "CURB WEIGHT".
You need to evaluate your PAYLOAD to determine what your TRUE tow rating is.
As an example.
Let's say a guy is single and is towing a car trailer of 10,000#'s loaded. That car trailer will have between 10 to 15% of its load as tongue weight or 1000-1500#'s (BTW the receiver max rating is anywhere from 1000-1250 depending on year of Ex in WD mode...so you need to watch that too)...but lets say that single guy wants to tow the 10,000# trailer...he would be OK because the GVWR of the V10 Ex is 8900#'s...
The typical "CURB" weight of the 2wd Ex is around 7200#'s with a payload of 1700#'s (8900-7200). That person could hitch up that trailer and be UNDER the GVWR of the Ex.
Now lets look at a typical family of 4 or 5 in that SAME 2wd Ex.
Mom, dad and 2 kids weight can add ~600#'s to the truck. They can then have 200#'s of "stuff" with them in the truck (toys, books, food, firewood, i.e. stuff).
Therefore the Ex BEFORE you hitch up the trailer will be sitting at 7200 + 600 + 200 = 8000#'s and that only leaves 900#'s for tongue weight before hitting 8900#'s.
The max trailer you could pull would be 6000 to 9000#'s (15% tongue to 10% tongue)
For stability you really do not want to sit at 10% tongue weight...so IMO the 9000# trailer would be a stretch (i.e. 10% of 9000 = 900)
Ideally you want 12 to 13% tongue...so a realistic trailer LOADED weight would be 7000# (13%) and 7500# (12%) a FAR cry from 11,000#'s!!!
The point here is that there is MORE to determine what the tow rating is for ANY vehicle over what the mfg simply rates as "MAX" because to achieve "MAX" you need a stripped down vehicle with a 150# driver ONLY inside the vehicle.
The simpliest way to understand how big of a trailer you can tow is to load up your vehicle with your family and gear you would haul when towing and go to a scale to see how heavy the Ex actually is.
Subtract that number from 8900#'s (the GVWR of the Ex) and then back figure from that because that is how much you can carry additional as TONGUE weight. Take that number and divide by .12 and .13 (12 and 13% tongue weights) and then you will see the true MAX you can haul and still be within your GVWR for the Ex.
From the standpoint of ratings that you will exceed...
GCWR will generally be exceeded LAST
GVWR will generally be exceeded FIRST.
Most will calculate "max" tow rating based on GCWR because it looks better for them...
The complication is that you must stay within ALL ratings and not just the ones you "like".
BTW...to complicate things further...a 4WD Ex weighs MORE yet the GVWR is STILL 8900#'s so the available payload for family and tongue weight is reduced and thus the available tow rating is reduced...
Double BTW...a PSD Ex has it even WORSE because the PSD weighs ~600#'s MORE than a V10 yet Ford only gives you 300#'s more on the GVWR to a total of 9200#'s...so the PSD can actually tow LESS than a V10 and stay within all of her ratings...numbers are tough to lie with...regardless of how powerful the PSD is...you will be towing OVER your ratings faster on a PSD than a V10.
Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Joe.
In a nutshell the "max" tow rating is as follows.
V10:
2wd 3.73 gears = 10,000#
2wd 4.30 gears = 11,000#
4wd 3.73 gears = 9,600#
4wd 4.30 gears = 11,000#
HOWEVER while Ford "rates" the vehicle at this "max"...there are so many other factors that truly determine the REAL tow rating.
Passengers, gear, optional equipment, additional aftermarket equipment (i.e. winches, bumpers, etc) all take AWAY from the "max" theoretical tow rating.
The "max" tow rating is for a CURB WEIGHTED vehicle...not many Ex's (or ANY vehicle for that mater) are ever "CURB WEIGHT".
You need to evaluate your PAYLOAD to determine what your TRUE tow rating is.
As an example.
Let's say a guy is single and is towing a car trailer of 10,000#'s loaded. That car trailer will have between 10 to 15% of its load as tongue weight or 1000-1500#'s (BTW the receiver max rating is anywhere from 1000-1250 depending on year of Ex in WD mode...so you need to watch that too)...but lets say that single guy wants to tow the 10,000# trailer...he would be OK because the GVWR of the V10 Ex is 8900#'s...
The typical "CURB" weight of the 2wd Ex is around 7200#'s with a payload of 1700#'s (8900-7200). That person could hitch up that trailer and be UNDER the GVWR of the Ex.
Now lets look at a typical family of 4 or 5 in that SAME 2wd Ex.
Mom, dad and 2 kids weight can add ~600#'s to the truck. They can then have 200#'s of "stuff" with them in the truck (toys, books, food, firewood, i.e. stuff).
Therefore the Ex BEFORE you hitch up the trailer will be sitting at 7200 + 600 + 200 = 8000#'s and that only leaves 900#'s for tongue weight before hitting 8900#'s.
The max trailer you could pull would be 6000 to 9000#'s (15% tongue to 10% tongue)
For stability you really do not want to sit at 10% tongue weight...so IMO the 9000# trailer would be a stretch (i.e. 10% of 9000 = 900)
Ideally you want 12 to 13% tongue...so a realistic trailer LOADED weight would be 7000# (13%) and 7500# (12%) a FAR cry from 11,000#'s!!!
The point here is that there is MORE to determine what the tow rating is for ANY vehicle over what the mfg simply rates as "MAX" because to achieve "MAX" you need a stripped down vehicle with a 150# driver ONLY inside the vehicle.
The simpliest way to understand how big of a trailer you can tow is to load up your vehicle with your family and gear you would haul when towing and go to a scale to see how heavy the Ex actually is.
Subtract that number from 8900#'s (the GVWR of the Ex) and then back figure from that because that is how much you can carry additional as TONGUE weight. Take that number and divide by .12 and .13 (12 and 13% tongue weights) and then you will see the true MAX you can haul and still be within your GVWR for the Ex.
From the standpoint of ratings that you will exceed...
GCWR will generally be exceeded LAST
GVWR will generally be exceeded FIRST.
Most will calculate "max" tow rating based on GCWR because it looks better for them...
The complication is that you must stay within ALL ratings and not just the ones you "like".
BTW...to complicate things further...a 4WD Ex weighs MORE yet the GVWR is STILL 8900#'s so the available payload for family and tongue weight is reduced and thus the available tow rating is reduced...
Double BTW...a PSD Ex has it even WORSE because the PSD weighs ~600#'s MORE than a V10 yet Ford only gives you 300#'s more on the GVWR to a total of 9200#'s...so the PSD can actually tow LESS than a V10 and stay within all of her ratings...numbers are tough to lie with...regardless of how powerful the PSD is...you will be towing OVER your ratings faster on a PSD than a V10.
Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Joe.
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While gear ratio DOES determine the "max" tow rating...that is only part of the answer.
In a nutshell the "max" tow rating is as follows.
V10:
2wd 3.73 gears = 10,000#
2wd 4.30 gears = 11,000#
4wd 3.73 gears = 9,600#
4wd 4.30 gears = 11,000#
HOWEVER while Ford "rates" the vehicle at this "max"...there are so many other factors that truly determine the REAL tow rating.
Passengers, gear, optional equipment, additional aftermarket equipment (i.e. winches, bumpers, etc) all take AWAY from the "max" theoretical tow rating.
The "max" tow rating is for a CURB WEIGHTED vehicle...not many Ex's (or ANY vehicle for that mater) are ever "CURB WEIGHT".
You need to evaluate your PAYLOAD to determine what your TRUE tow rating is.
As an example.
Let's say a guy is single and is towing a car trailer of 10,000#'s loaded. That car trailer will have between 10 to 15% of its load as tongue weight or 1000-1500#'s (BTW the receiver max rating is anywhere from 1000-1250 depending on year of Ex in WD mode...so you need to watch that too)...but lets say that single guy wants to tow the 10,000# trailer...he would be OK because the GVWR of the V10 Ex is 8900#'s...
The typical "CURB" weight of the 2wd Ex is around 7200#'s with a payload of 1700#'s (8900-7200). That person could hitch up that trailer and be UNDER the GVWR of the Ex.
Now lets look at a typical family of 4 or 5 in that SAME 2wd Ex.
Mom, dad and 2 kids weight can add ~600#'s to the truck. They can then have 200#'s of "stuff" with them in the truck (toys, books, food, firewood, i.e. stuff).
Therefore the Ex BEFORE you hitch up the trailer will be sitting at 7200 + 600 + 200 = 8000#'s and that only leaves 900#'s for tongue weight before hitting 8900#'s.
The max trailer you could pull would be 6000 to 9000#'s (15% tongue to 10% tongue)
For stability you really do not want to sit at 10% tongue weight...so IMO the 9000# trailer would be a stretch (i.e. 10% of 9000 = 900)
Ideally you want 12 to 13% tongue...so a realistic trailer LOADED weight would be 7000# (13%) and 7500# (12%) a FAR cry from 11,000#'s!!!
The point here is that there is MORE to determine what the tow rating is for ANY vehicle over what the mfg simply rates as "MAX" because to achieve "MAX" you need a stripped down vehicle with a 150# driver ONLY inside the vehicle.
The simpliest way to understand how big of a trailer you can tow is to load up your vehicle with your family and gear you would haul when towing and go to a scale to see how heavy the Ex actually is.
Subtract that number from 8900#'s (the GVWR of the Ex) and then back figure from that because that is how much you can carry additional as TONGUE weight. Take that number and divide by .12 and .13 (12 and 13% tongue weights) and then you will see the true MAX you can haul and still be within your GVWR for the Ex.
From the standpoint of ratings that you will exceed...
GCWR will generally be exceeded LAST
GVWR will generally be exceeded FIRST.
Most will calculate "max" tow rating based on GCWR because it looks better for them...
The complication is that you must stay within ALL ratings and not just the ones you "like".
BTW...to complicate things further...a 4WD Ex weighs MORE yet the GVWR is STILL 8900#'s so the available payload for family and tongue weight is reduced and thus the available tow rating is reduced...
Double BTW...a PSD Ex has it even WORSE because the PSD weighs ~600#'s MORE than a V10 yet Ford only gives you 300#'s more on the GVWR to a total of 9200#'s...so the PSD can actually tow LESS than a V10 and stay within all of her ratings...numbers are tough to lie with...regardless of how powerful the PSD is...you will be towing OVER your ratings faster on a PSD than a V10.
Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Joe.
In a nutshell the "max" tow rating is as follows.
V10:
2wd 3.73 gears = 10,000#
2wd 4.30 gears = 11,000#
4wd 3.73 gears = 9,600#
4wd 4.30 gears = 11,000#
HOWEVER while Ford "rates" the vehicle at this "max"...there are so many other factors that truly determine the REAL tow rating.
Passengers, gear, optional equipment, additional aftermarket equipment (i.e. winches, bumpers, etc) all take AWAY from the "max" theoretical tow rating.
The "max" tow rating is for a CURB WEIGHTED vehicle...not many Ex's (or ANY vehicle for that mater) are ever "CURB WEIGHT".
You need to evaluate your PAYLOAD to determine what your TRUE tow rating is.
As an example.
Let's say a guy is single and is towing a car trailer of 10,000#'s loaded. That car trailer will have between 10 to 15% of its load as tongue weight or 1000-1500#'s (BTW the receiver max rating is anywhere from 1000-1250 depending on year of Ex in WD mode...so you need to watch that too)...but lets say that single guy wants to tow the 10,000# trailer...he would be OK because the GVWR of the V10 Ex is 8900#'s...
The typical "CURB" weight of the 2wd Ex is around 7200#'s with a payload of 1700#'s (8900-7200). That person could hitch up that trailer and be UNDER the GVWR of the Ex.
Now lets look at a typical family of 4 or 5 in that SAME 2wd Ex.
Mom, dad and 2 kids weight can add ~600#'s to the truck. They can then have 200#'s of "stuff" with them in the truck (toys, books, food, firewood, i.e. stuff).
Therefore the Ex BEFORE you hitch up the trailer will be sitting at 7200 + 600 + 200 = 8000#'s and that only leaves 900#'s for tongue weight before hitting 8900#'s.
The max trailer you could pull would be 6000 to 9000#'s (15% tongue to 10% tongue)
For stability you really do not want to sit at 10% tongue weight...so IMO the 9000# trailer would be a stretch (i.e. 10% of 9000 = 900)
Ideally you want 12 to 13% tongue...so a realistic trailer LOADED weight would be 7000# (13%) and 7500# (12%) a FAR cry from 11,000#'s!!!
The point here is that there is MORE to determine what the tow rating is for ANY vehicle over what the mfg simply rates as "MAX" because to achieve "MAX" you need a stripped down vehicle with a 150# driver ONLY inside the vehicle.
The simpliest way to understand how big of a trailer you can tow is to load up your vehicle with your family and gear you would haul when towing and go to a scale to see how heavy the Ex actually is.
Subtract that number from 8900#'s (the GVWR of the Ex) and then back figure from that because that is how much you can carry additional as TONGUE weight. Take that number and divide by .12 and .13 (12 and 13% tongue weights) and then you will see the true MAX you can haul and still be within your GVWR for the Ex.
From the standpoint of ratings that you will exceed...
GCWR will generally be exceeded LAST
GVWR will generally be exceeded FIRST.
Most will calculate "max" tow rating based on GCWR because it looks better for them...
The complication is that you must stay within ALL ratings and not just the ones you "like".
BTW...to complicate things further...a 4WD Ex weighs MORE yet the GVWR is STILL 8900#'s so the available payload for family and tongue weight is reduced and thus the available tow rating is reduced...
Double BTW...a PSD Ex has it even WORSE because the PSD weighs ~600#'s MORE than a V10 yet Ford only gives you 300#'s more on the GVWR to a total of 9200#'s...so the PSD can actually tow LESS than a V10 and stay within all of her ratings...numbers are tough to lie with...regardless of how powerful the PSD is...you will be towing OVER your ratings faster on a PSD than a V10.
Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Joe.
